Poker Dealers Passionate

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Tue, Aug 25 - 4:43 pm EDT | 5 years ago by
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My poker blog has become the hub of tipping poker dealers. It seems like every 10 days I have a new comment insisting I’m wrong. The latest commenter is bordizzle and he has strong convictions. So do I. Let’s see how they play out:

when you sit down at a poker table in vegas –like it or not– you enter into a social contract to pay the dealer a portion of their wages… period…

it doesn’t matter if you’re on vacation or if you’re a pro… doesn’t matter if you’re stuck or up $100,000… when you win a decent pot (more than just the blinds) throw your dealer a buck…

you’re tipping based on THE SERVICE YOU RECEIVE… not on whether you win or lose… dealers have no control over you wins or loses…

If I’m tipping on the service I receive and not whether I win or lose, then this would support my proposal.

dealing is a brutally tough job… try it for 8 hours… see how your back feels the next day… THEN, try doing it 5 nights / week…

i have done both – server for many years, dealer for many years… and i can tell you that dealer is FAR MORE strenuous than waiting tables… PLUS, as a dealer, you have to be MUCH more focused 100% of the time… the smallest mistake is unacceptable… waiter forgot your drink? no big deal, they’ll be right back with it… dealer mucks your hand on accident? just cost you a $500 pot… get the difference?

Sitting down for 8 hours? I don’t call that brutal. I wouldn’t go the brutal route to try and advocate higher pay. Dealing poker is relatively easy compared to most service jobs. And most people that work do try their jobs five days a week. Dealers do need to pay attention. That’s what they’re there for. If they make mistakes dealing the cards and mucking cards they shouldn’t be a dealer to begin with. It’s called the name of the game.

if you only make $400 / week, playing $1/$2NL is playing over your head…

as for tipping: trust me, we wish EVERYONE would win every night – but that just isn’t possible… if you have a problem with tipping, stay home and invite friends over for a friendly poker night…

agreed! you enter into a “social contract” when you go to a poker room to play… the dealers DEPEND on your tips… they make less than $8 / hour in salary…

don’t want to tip of can’t afford it? effing stay home!!!

Actually, no it wasn’t. One can save money. Even if there was no savings , anyone can do what they legally want to with their own money. I know everyone can’t win. And for the 8th time I don’t have a problem with tipping. I just disagree with poker dealers that they’re so valuable to society that they should command $40,000 or more per year for say a 40 hour work week. I’m not going to stiff anyone.

Does the social contract say anything about deserving more than $25 to deal cards?

two HUGE problem with tipping dealers at the end of your playing session:

one) poker dealers DO NOT pool tips… i haven’t played in every poker room on the planet, but i’ve played in enough, and i can tell you that i’ve NEVER been in a poker room where the dealers pool their tips… poker dealers keep what they personally make in tips each down they deal… therefore, if you wait until the end of your session to tip, ONE dealer is going to have a great down (depending on what YOU consider a good tip)…

two) if you end up losing, you’re probably not going to tip… and if you get FELTED you’re definitely going to tip… in poker, you can win 75% of all the hands and STILL end up losing… therefore, your poker dealer would have ZERO compensation for every hand you win…

this discussion can be applied to all aspects where tipping is customary: you enter into an UNWRITTEN SOCIAL AGREEMENT when you go out to eat, valet your car, play in a casino… wherever people work and depend on tips FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD… it’s okay if you have an issue with tipping or prefer not to – JUST EFFING STAY HOME because you taking up a table, or seat or time of a tipped employee and you’re LITERALLY costing them money when you refuse to tip or do not tip appropriately…

as for what an appropriate tip for a poker is… i agree that it’s ridiculous to tip the dealer when you only win the blinds… i also agree that it’s ridiculous to only tip the dealer $1 when you scoop a $1000 pot… there is a middle ground… in a casino setting, i usually tip roughly $1 for every $100 in the pot and i usually cap my tip at $5 unless i get REALLY lucky in a REALLY big pot (i’ve tipped as much as $50 for huge pots i’ve gotten luck yon)…

bottom line: tip based on the SERVICE you receive… the dealer has no control over whether you win or lose, so you shouldn’t dictate their income on that basis… you play, the play of your opponents and your run of cards are the determine factors in your wins / losses… so, when you do have the fortune of winning a pot, throw the dealer a dollar or two… it IS a difficult job (try it sometime… you’ll see) and they definitely deserve the compensation… or, stay at home, invite some friends over and deal to your effing selves!

Why can’t poker dealers read? Look if you guys are making 40-50 grand a year, I give you major credit for pulling that. But you got to realize that’s a fortunate salary.

SXC.hu

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