Anna Nikolayev Loses Sammy Nikolayev After Asking for Second Opinion

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Parents of a five-month-old baby are going through hell right now in Sacramento. Anna Nikolayev and Alex Nikolayev have lost custody of their baby after CPS took him away. Why did CPS remove the child? Because the parents wanted a second opinion prior to signing off on major surgery.

Anna Nikolayev Photos

Anna Nikolayev Photos

The baby, Sammy Nikolayev, was at Sutter Memorial Hospital being treated for regular flu-like symptoms. The hospital eventually started pushing for heart surgery — and that’s when the parents said they wanted a second opinion.

While getting a second opinion at Kaiser Permanente, police showed up. However, they were told that the baby was fine and so the cops left the scene. A doctor even wrote a note saying that the baby was safe.

Sammy Nikolayev Photos

Sammy Nikolayev Photos

Unfortunately, the next day everything changed. CPS and the police showed up at the family’s home and forcefully removed the baby from his mother’s arms. Anna Nikolayev had no choice but to hand over Sammy Nikolayev.

Since then, they’ve only been allowed a one-hour visit with their baby. On Monday, the couple heads to court and will try to regain custody of their baby.

Alex Nikolayev Photos

Alex Nikolayev Photos

We should hope this case isn’t as terrible as it sounds right now. CPS and the police shouldn’t get involved when parents simply want to find the best care for their child. That’s ridiculous.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/askamma Amma Love

    Please share the information and this petition far and wide on all your networks. They speak the truth and need our help! It’s time to stand up to CPS for our children. He is in the best care he can be with his parents who obviously did the right thing by getting a second opinion for a heart surgery. Heart surgery is major, especially for a baby. http://www.change.org/petitions/sacramento-cps-release-information-regarding-the-kidnapping-of-sammy-nikolayev#

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  • Richard

    they took this baby out of an ICU without a discharge. Does that sound like the actions of well meaning, thoughtful parents? The baby could have been evaluated for a second opinion at Sutter. In the news story they show the baby with a nasogastric feeding tube…this is a medically fragile child! Why don’t you people drop the conspiracy theories and get a life.

    • Genny White

      The parents took the child out of ICU after Mother learned of 1 error in her son’s care at Sutter already and the hosp started pushing for heart surgery while he was there. just to ve checked out because he had flew symptoms. They left and went across town to a second hospital to get a second opinion, This physician found the child “clinically well enough to be discharged to his parents home and to his parents care. Relatives of the child state “the feeding tube” is not necessary. There is No conspiracy theory here do your own research talk with the families attorney review the news coverage Review the documents from the second hospital that released Sammy to go home with his parents, talk to the family. Why don’t you open your eyes and see that some elements of the Medical Establishment are Not interested in what is in the best interest of the individual but in the pile of moula that can be made for a major surgery that other physicians believe can be done at a later time when the baby is more mature. and some elements believe they can punish people for questioning them and utilize CPS as a pawn to exercise punishment. And Yes Richard a parent taking a child out of an environment where they have observed medical errors occurring on their child, and enduring pressure to consent to open heart surgery on their child in that very same establishment Are indeed well meaning parents not to cower and be intimidated and to have the courage to access other health care for their child sound like Well Meaning Parents to me.

    • richard

      if by research you mean the families report than you are ignoramis. but that is evident by your spelling and obvious medical knowledge. please tell me more about this disease “the flew.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003348943088 Matt Tanner Snow

      the other doctor said it was find to go, the parent have choice you know, if they feel something is wrong they can go some where else, american doctors dont have best rep, freedom is freedom, nazi are nazi look at the ocuntry

    • richard

      wherr are you getting data on “american doctors reps?” please send me a link…i would love to read the studies. considering how intelligently you wrote your reply (by the way what do nazi’s have to do with any of this)…i will speak in simple sentences. they left an icu with a medically fragile baby. they went to an outise Emergeny Room and were seen by an ER physician who discharged them. why you think the ER doc has “a better rep” than the ICU intensivists it outright confusing. if you think the ER doc who saw this baby and family for 6 minutes has better knowledge of the medical issues and social issues affecting the infants wellbeing…then your are an idiot.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1359753133 Barbara Warren

      @Richard: Your own spelling also leaves a lot to be desired. As I understand it, the first hospital was discouraging a second opinion (which the parents had every right to ask for). Any hospital which discourage a second opinion for major surgery is not a hospital to be trusted. Considering that the surgery was scheduled for 2 weeks from when they removed the baby, it doesn’t sound like the child was in imminent danger.

      Also, you are making some unwarranted assumptions. Yuu don’t know how long the baby was examined and what kind of examination was done at the second hospital, nor what kind of specialist saw him. It sounds to me like you have some pretty stupid prejudices, and are attempting to shape the narrative to suit them.

    • richard

      no assumptions or prejudices on my part angel. the clones who are speculating on this this story are handling that. oops spelling mistake…i meant clowns. i am a pediatric specialist (will refrain from mentioning which type…or where), but i can assure you I have more knowledge of this case than you could pretend to know.

      that said your point is a great one. EVERYONE stop speculating…and wait to hear what pans out as the complete story (both sides) are revealed.

      cheers barbara.

    • Connie Davis

      I DON’T BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE THAT YOU ARE A SPECIALIST OF ANYTHING. HMMMM A PEDIATRIC SPECIALIST…..WELL YOU SCARE ME. TO THINK YOU’RE AN EXAMPLE BUT CAN’T SPELL OR HOW TO USE PROPER ENGLISH. IF YOU’RE AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF SPECIALIST AT THAT HOSPITAL THAN I’D RUN LIKE HELL WITH MY CHILD TOO.

    • richard

      uhmm can you say caps lock. brilliant my dear. believe it…thats why i know more facts than you do about this matter. as a matter of fact…i know more than you do in general. did you see how i twisted those words around? clever right. ;-)

    • Natasha Pan

      So what your trying to say is that child should just be taken away, and showed in to foster “care” program, where he’ll REALLY be neglected, unwanted nuisance, pushed from house to house, where all people care about is getting a pay check for having him at their place for the time being? You can’t GUARANTEE that a better family than the one he was born in to will pick him up and raise him with BETTER love and care, can you? Forgive me for saying so, but every one I met that has gone through foster care never spoken even a single positive word about it. Somehow they all felt that, that experience traumatized their lives.

    • Natasha Pan

      Or any one that gone through CPS problem for that matter. Like there’s a saying: If the was no fire, there would be no smoke. It’s not a first case of family complaining that after a visit to a hospital they have been falsely accused of child neglect or worse abuse. I highly doubt that all of you medic people with such well paying job are SO HONEST as to be completely uncorrupted and not tempted even by bit of the whole business making on those naive costumers i mean clients of yours, by pushing unnecessary treatments on them. Twice I’ve been to the hospital, for unknown allergic reaction, and twice I was given a list of supplements that cost me over 80 dollars each time and were of no use, and all I needed in the end was just an allergy relief which I was told by a physician at local urgent care. Do tell me again I should trust claiming professionals such as your self.

    • richard

      the care quality or lack thereof has nothing to do with this case. the second opinion has nothing to do with this case. they took their child out of an ICU without discharge or transfer. period. everything else is just rambling (see below).

    • skye

      It is a free country! Isn’t it??? It is THEIR child; NOT the hospital’s. CPS is a power-crazed entity with little to no scruples. They traumatize children and families more than truly help. The hospital is NOT the authority here. Or it shouldn’t be. Neither should the CPS. Children should never be taken from their parents without a real danger present. I mean a *REAL* danger. Are they going to do the operation on this baby before he gets back to the parents? Outrageous!!!!!

    • Richard

      Free coountry absolutely. Society has an interest in protecting the rights of a child and that is why manadatory reports (like physicians, nurses, etc) exist. As the cliche goes…you need to pass a test to driver a car, but any old schmuck can have a baby.

      If I am an ICU physician and a parent removes a child…without proper discharge or transfer of care…than I would notify CPS. I am responsible for the wellbeing of that child. CPS evaluates and decides who should have custody. Not that I would know anything about this ;-)
      By the way…what is “real danger” when it comes to the wellbeing and care of a child.

      Also, before you say that the baby only had a “simple flu”; please go read up on the pathophysiology of pathologic cardiac murmurs (this baby is unlikely to have an innocent murmur that everyone thinks of) and decompensation during acute illness. I do not have time to give you a full lecture. Nor do I think you possess the capacity to understand :-D

    • http://www.facebook.com/knpoduch Kristina Poduch

      Whats a “coountry” richard???

    • richard

      Glad you asked. Its a provence filled with lots of coo-coo’s. Hence, COOuntry. And as evident by reading the comments here this place is loaded with them! Cute right?

      Kristina thanks for playing along…and walking right into that one. :-)

    • richard

      by the way kristina as you diligently proofread the online conspiracy threads…please spend time proofreading your thesis…found a few grammatical and syntax errors after a few minutes of reading. for what its worth…i do commend your work…I completed a PhD these in cellular biology and can appreciate the tediousness of dissertation writing.

    • Tom Jones

      I think you might mean thesis. Also, you should spend more time proofreading your own posts. Mr. PhD.

    • richard

      oh snap you got me. technically its Dr. PhD…Mr. PhD is my father.

    • Beenthere

      Please allow me to correct your notion that CPS decides who will have custody. A JUDGE decides who will have custody. CPS social/case workers write reports, often times with false information especially in cases of the very young children who bring a pretty bonus to the department when the parents are stripped of their rights and the children are placed as adoptable with special needs. They then suggest to the court what they would like to see happen with the case. I may not know much about the medical side of this thing, but I’ve done my research on CPS.

    • richard

      agreed and well put. let me clarify CPS evaluates and assesses the continuance of custody. if the case meets the state standards of exigency then custody can be reliquenshed to the state via a health provider/hospital or foster home. CPS then goes before a judge for an order of guardian ad litum … etc …etc…you clearly know the routine. No sense in me rambling.

      Thank you for your research.

    • Christine

      Did I miss something? Where in this article does it say that the baby was in ICU at the first hospital?? Wouldn’t it be NICU for a 5 month old baby?

    • richard

      no. neonatal icu’s are for newborns…or infants in the newborn period. a 5 month old would go to a pediatric icu.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Angela-Williamson-Cox/1114891762 Angela Williamson Cox

      Hey, don’t put ALL foster homes down!! We fostered 6 and we adopted ALL 6! All foster parents are not out for a pay check!! We spent way more then their check ever covered!

    • http://www.facebook.com/knpoduch Kristina Poduch

      Actually “Richard”. You either have no actual knowledge of this case or you are in violation of HIPA by mentioning it. How about you get a life, A**hat.

    • richard

      first my dear its spelled HIP…ehhh who cares. it does not matter because I have not disclosed any PHI (you probably know what that is you little HI-PA expert)….so its all kosher.

      did you know that the A**hat is the national headgear for COOntry. I bet you did…cause you are definitely a citizen (see above).

      trust me on this…I am way smarter than you and I can develop way cheesier insults. though A**hat is really, really. cheesy. well done.

    • Tom Jones

      I hope everyone sees what is happening. Richard, actually got his PhD in trolling. He is a doctor of bullsh1t. He thinks he is clever because he can insult people on the internet. Yet, he also claims to have a thorough knowledge of this case and the child. He has no understanding of why parents might be upset with Sutter even though they allegedly misdiagnosed a 5 month old child. This says that Richard is single, lonely, and has no children of his own. Ahh, to walk a mile in someone else’s shoes.

    • richard

      nah i actually did a combined md, phd…it was a good experience. though we were not taught how to cleverly disguise profanity by mixing numbers and letters. actually never claimed to know this infant…just dozens of identical cases. what i do understand …and you continue to fail too…is why CPS was activated by the treating team at sutter (see above). for what its worth i am married to a nurse…we have a infant too(laying in the hammock beside me) and i am trolling while overlooking the ocean from m home. i welcome you to come walk a mile in my shoes….see how well you do dealing with coo-coos like the ones posting here. how about that pussycat? (before you cry about me calling you names…its a tom jones reference).

    • Tom Jones

      So you sit here on your soapbox working for Sutter and defending possible friends. It sounds like you are extremely biased in this case. The news has reported that the child was misdiagnosed at Sutter one time already and that a second opinion had been performed at Kaiser. This indicates that the surgery was “potentially” not necessary. As a “pediatrician” I am sure you can understand the concerns a parent might have over surgery on their very young child. Also, calling people Angel as you get up on your soapbox makes you sound more like a child molester than a certified doctor of pediatrics….
      And the latest winner of To Catch a Predator! Richard come on down!

    • rochard

      did you see me on that episode? crazy right! no soapbox…just sick of morons who have no clue and absolutely no critical thinking ability. i do not work at sutter…i am at a dedicated children’s facility and thus deal with this all the time. i deal with people like you who perseverate on a non-issue (see above re: critical thinking). its not about the surgery to repair a congenital cardiac defect. its about parents taking a medically fragile child out of an ICU without discharge or transfer of medical custodianship. ruminate over that and call me in the morning…princess ;-D

      P.S. – perceptive on the use of “angel” the choice of language had nothing to do with the height of my soapbox…rather i was recognizing the “holy and pure” tone of that particular speaker.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ron.lawrence.7 Ron Lawrence

      Looks like you lose.Of course someone that agrees with these Gestapo tactics didn’t have a clue to begin with.

    • richard

      lose how? the judge rules that the infant must remain at sutter until he is transferred to another facility ; transfer to care between medical teams. the judge rules that family cannot remove infant from hospital without discharge. the infant wins.

      http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/314117/81/Baby-at-center-of-custody-dispute-moved-to-hospital

      the only loser is you champ.

    • Connie Davis

      No your an idiot to think that they wouldn’t seek a 2nd opinion. That’s a serious surgery and I wouldn’t let just any one do surgery on my child without very CAREFUL PLANING.

    • richard

      thats precisely the point. you get a second opinion as an inpatient. either outside specialists are brought in or the patient is transferred by the treating tram to another facility. pulling your child out of an ICU (that is the fact of the matter) without a discharge or transfer of care is deemed a danger to the wellbeing of a minor (that too is a fact). the matter pf second opinion or third opinion is irrelevant due to the preceding actions of the parents. i know it all sounds “idiotic”…us malicious doctors (obviously i am pretending to be one)…everyone thinks we are motivated by money. in reality we just like to take children away from their parents (who demonstrate poor impulse control). cheers connie.

    • http://profiles.google.com/rainydaylove R T

      A parent should be able to walk out of a hospital where they do not believe their child is getting proper care. You make it sound like the parents and child are being help hostage to the whims of the treating team. It makes me never want to take my child to the hospital since according to you I give up any right to make choices for my child when I walk through the door! Really scary!

    • http://profiles.google.com/rainydaylove R T

      You like to take children away from their parents?

    • richard

      yes RT. the truth is that your local physician is like an Abercrombie employee we get commission for every child “taken away.” :-p

    • Tom Jones

      Well, if you don’t get a cash bonus, it sure sounds like you get an ego bonus. Because you have that, “I’m always right attitude” that is commonly associated with narcissists. If, you are a representation of our local physicians, it is very easy to believe that you might send police and cps after parents that thwarted your ego. Just to get the last, smartest, and most clever word.

    • richard

      right you got my number. truth is none of us care about the health of the kids…i concede defeat.

      and trust me…my ego needs no bonus. :-D

      can we drop this now that the judge has ruled on the case? honestly its getting old.

    • dragon6actual

      Richard, or should I simply call you d1ck – you are living proof that the pandemic God complex in the medical community must be reined in.
      If a hospital staff member errs and administers an antibiotic which the doctor from the same hospital said should NOT be given, it raises serious concerns regarding the competency of said staff. I would be concerned if the mother did NOT act in the manner she did. She IMMEDIATELY (I’m typing this v e r y s l o w l y in hopes that you may comprehend) took the child to another doctor, who stated that “emergency heart surgery” was NOT required, and that the child was fine.
      Let’s examine the track record of hospitals – shall we? Each year here are almost 100 times as many patients killed resulting from unnecessary surgery alone than are killed by assault weapons. Law must ensure the separation of religion and the hospital to permanently exorcise the God complex from fools such as yourself.
      The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284, No 4, July 26th 2000 article written by Dr Barbara Starfield, MD, MPH, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, shows that medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the United States.
      The report apparently shows there are 2,000 deaths/year from unnecessary surgery; 7000 deaths/year from medication errors in hospitals; 20,000 deaths/year from other errors in hospitals; 80,000 deaths/year from infections in hospitals; 106,000 deaths/year from non-error, adverse effects of medications – these total up to 225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes which ranks these deaths as the # 3 killer. Iatrogenic is a term used when a patient dies as a direct result of treatments by a physician, whether it is from misdiagnosis of the ailment or from adverse drug reactions used to treat the illness. (drug reactions are the most common cause).

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      It’s not the physician that’s taking them it’s CPS.. Are you mentally disadvantaged? Or by chance being named Dick ruined you for life?

    • richard

      apparently sarcasm is lost on you. well at least you have a rich vocabulary of 4 letter words. you are a proud product of the sacramento public school system ;-)

    • VERONICA GORDON

      Richard, I know I’m posting this a lot later than this article came out, but I have to say something. I don’t care what kind of doctor you are. Matter of fact, it sounds like you may be a CPT doctor who actually is contracted through DCF. You are very ignorant/IN DEFENSE of DCF (or CPS-depending on where you live) corrupt practices of removing children from safe/stable homes and leaving children in abusive homes. Why don’t you do some research. Look up Gabriel Hernandez’s case. You are a fool. If the child’s only medical device was a feeding tube, and they took him for a second opinion elsewhere THAT IS THEIR RIGHT!!!. And look what happened…they got their child back where he should be. 10 years ago my child was taken from me at 3 months old after I took him to the emergency room for what looked like “orange pee” in his diaper. After 5 hours in the ER and the doctor stating he was fine and to follow up with a pediatrician for FTT I went home. Come to find out my ex who I had just left has a friend that works with DCF, and he called them when I wouldn’t take him back to ER even though there was no more orange pee. A policeman came out, and when he saw the ER discharge papers he left. Then DCF came, and they took my child away because he didn’t have an apnea monitor that he had since birth- yea, and you probably will think it’s a lie or conspiracy theory when I tell you that my ex didn’t bring me the monitor and wouldn’t bring it to DCF when they asked him to so my son could go home with me. So, 24 hours later a doctor for the hospital they had my son at said he was fine and ready to be discharged TO ME when the medical equipment company came with another apnea monitor. Well, that would not be the case because then all of a sudden when the CPT doctor contracted with DCF saw my son alone he allegedly had a spell and stopped breathing. He was rushed two hours away to another hospital already intubated. They never tried to wean him off the intubation. He was trached, given a feeding tube, and sent to foster care for 6 months because my ex wouldn’t complete medical training. They said I neglected him even though 2 doctors said he was fine but had FFT due to vomiting formula which his original pediatrician was ALREADY DEALING WITH. And the only time my son ever had a breathing problem was when he was in DCF’s care- NO WHERE AROUND ME. SO PLEASE GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH YOUR IGNORANT THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ABOUT “CONSPIRACY THERORIES”. ASSHOLE.

    • R0chambeau

      Veronica, taking a child AMA out of an ICU is not their right. It’s endangering the child and most certainly reportable to CPS.

    • Diana

      Actually, Richard, if you bothered to read the article, you would see that they had requested a second opinion, and that the hospital was adamantly against it. You claim “That is the parents point of view”, however, the fact they immediately went to a second hospital shows that this was in fact their intention: to get a second opinion. Doctors from Sutters met with the police and the couple at the second hospital, so they were well aware that the child was NOT being neglected, but was in fact receiving medical care from a different (rival) facility. This is a case of a doctor being upset that someone was questioning his opinion and doing what he could to make things miserable for the family. If anything, this doctor has given yet another reason people should avoid Sutters.

    • richard

      Geezus when will you people get it. It has nothing to do with “intensions”, “rival facilities” or “upset doctors.” There is no global conspiracy. Let me guess you think that the judge who ruled tonight that this infant cannot be released home to the parents is in on it too, right? Welcome to my COOuntry.

      You can present all the articles in the world…the fact remains that you cannot take a medically fragile child out of an ICU. You can be the Pope’s daughter and you will still have CPS activiated by the treating physicians. Get it? No! Yeah, I figured.

      Think about it like this the difference between “intention” as you put it and “action”…wow…why I am evening bothering. It’s like watching a dog chasse its tail. Goodnight Diana.

    • toRichard

      You have a slight point, but the overwhelming ego tone in your post just screams “I don’t have a job and I have resentments about my life- so I spend all day on google doing research on all the rude, and smart, things I can say online to people who have no idea that I just sit at home all day and heckle online articles 24/7″

    • richard

      my ego is irrelevent…the point is all that matters. there is no slight point or major point…just the fact that they endangered the wellbeing of a child by removing them from an ICU without discharge. the second opinion is as irrelevent as my slight egomaniacism. :-D

      thanks for the pssychoanalysis. truly well done. give me an address and i will sne you your payment. try this one for size. how about I am in the field and in fact deal with child neglect and abuse cases weekly…but in real life I have to check my ego when dealing with all the moronic, uneducated individuals who lack a ounce of insight about anyone but themselves. then i can come home from said imaginerary job let my frustrations out online with people such as you…before going hack and doing it all over again.

      nah…your theory makes more sense. kudos “torichard”

    • Lara

      you spelled ignoramus wrong, stupid

    • Lara

      you spelled ignoramus wrong, stupid

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      You shouldn’t be trolling this article this is a serious matter why don’t you go fucking play in traffic, like the dumbass you are.

    • Connie Davis

      And who lets their child under go such a serious surgery without at least one other opion.

    • richard

      read above, below or between…the second opinion is not the issue. how dense are you? check out WSBs post below this….and then try to think. oooohh thinking.

    • Diana

      Actually, Richard, if you bothered to read the article, you would see that they had requested a second opinion, and that the hospital was adamantly against it. You claim “That is the parents point of view”, however, the fact they immediately went to a second hospital shows that this was in fact their intention: to get a second opinion. Doctors from Sutters met with the police and the couple at the second hospital, so they were well aware that the child was NOT being neglected, but was in fact receiving medical care from a different (rival) facility. This is a case of a doctor being upset that someone was questioning his opinion and doing what he could to make things miserable for the family. If anything, this doctor has given yet another reason people should avoid Sutters.

    • Jenny

      Ummmm, the 2nd opinion is the WHOLE ISSUE!!! I would definitely want a 2nd opinion for something that serious as well, but even more so if the nurses & other staff couldn’t answer basic questions about what they were putting in my child body!! I mean seriously, how can you trust a nurse like that, they should know what each & every medicine is for, what it does & what effects it could have on the patient. So yes, I’d want a 2nd opinion, & I wouldn’t want it from THAT hospital either. I would want to leave & go to a different hospital, with different doctors & different nurses. Not stay in the same place, just to have one of the presiding doctor’s tennis buddies come down & just agree with him. Seriously, what are you thinking? The child wasn’t in serious condition, in fact, only a few hours after leaving, a different doctor, at a different hospital, was saying the child was fine to go home & that the surgery wasn’t necessary!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      I was taken from my parents after my mother discovered a bruise on my brothers side… my mother freaked did the right thing and took my brother into the hospital, the hospital claimed my mother beat the child.. oddly you could touch the bruise no tenderness, he was scanned no internal bleeding and he wasn’t showing any signs of being in pain.. really strange right? The next day while at a receiving home the “bruise” washed off.. it turns out the shirts my mother bought from KMart weren’t color fastened properly and my brother being 2 yrs old wet clean through his diaper onto a the shirt that bled the ink onto his side and dried overnight.. my mother doing the responsible thing had her kids taken away without any real evidence and here’s the funny thing after the “bruise” washed off they still had to go through red tape to get us back home… Guess where I live? That’s right Sacramento CA..

    • richard

      that is the most ridiculous story i have ever heard. literally…no hyperbole…literally the most rodiculous. if you think this story is true (i suspect this is the version your family told you ) then get a copy of the CPS report…and more importantly get a copy of the photos of the alleged bruise / cheap clothing ink. yes it is part of your brothers medical record and thus should be with the hospital where he was evaluated. and yes all signs of physical abuse are photographed. it takes complete incompetence to confuse a bruise and ink stain. if it happened get the records and you will have a great lawsuit to file. alternatively you can keep believing your story. as they say ignorance is bliss.

      kudos on living in sacremento. i am very impressed :-)

    • http://profiles.google.com/rainydaylove R T

      What is wrong with you? You seem way too aggressive and angry!

    • Natasha Pan

      Because he’s probably is THE doctor that was treating little Sammy (as he claims to be pediatrician and claims to know more info on this case then even the family of that child), and whose pride was heart by parents questioning his professionalism. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case. Other wise he’s taking it WAY too personally. Kinda suspicious don’t you think?

    • richard

      suspicious indeed. maybe i run this website and am trying to get more activity? hmmmm….interesting theory. lets write an article about it.

      maybe i am THE doctor…and this is what I do while on the toilet between shifts. gross!

    • skye

      I have been on the other side, Richard. Too many times CPS deems it necessary to take a child away from parents with no proof whatsoever. My dd sat in an emergency room until midnight (6 hours I believe it was) waiting to “make sure” that my granddaughter was not injured from a fall. It was a precaution. She decided to leave and come back the next day after they’d gotten some sleep. Because she’d already signed in, they called CPS on her! She DID tell them she was leaving and would be back the next day.

      It’s RIDICULOUS the “authority” other people have over your family. Teachers, doctors, CPS, …. it really is becoming like a police state.

    • Richard

      When it comes to protecting the rights and safety of children from imcompetent parents (a child who otherwise has no voice)…you are correct; you live in police state.
      Beleive whatever you like, but CPS was not called because a parent left the bedside. If that were the case then every family in te hospital would be followed by CPS. CPS was called becasuse there was a suspicion for abuse. Period…no conspiries…no propaganga…thats all there is to it. Cheers Skye.

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      You are a fucking tard.. I was their dumbass I watched it go down.. I was in the car with her when she brought him in to the hospital I watched the doctors diagnose it and I still remember it very very freaking clearly.. and I have no desire to sue anyone it happened almost 20 yrs ago. I mentioned Sacramento because guess what it this article is about a couple in Sacramento at the same hospital with doctors jumping the gun once again.

    • richard

      way to keep it classy and PG. how did your mother not examine, touch or wipe the alleged bruise? the first thing a physician does is touch a lesion. if it washed of the next day…how did the bruise remain despite all these people examining it?. the story is ridiculous. i get it…you have told it so many times you believe it is true. I am sorry that you had such a lousy up bringing. (insert additional 4 letter words at your leisure). cheers.

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      Like I said you are a tard the dye was good dye, it just wasn’t fastened… Jesus pull your head out of your ass..they never tried to wipe it off because it looked like it was an internal bleed bruise caused by a crushing impact.. God I don’t know why anyone would make up such a story you stupid DICK.. go troll someone else you are just making up shit and assumptions.

    • richard

      seriously you are gonna try and explain mechanism of injury to me? this is what is do. and trust me my head/brain/ego are waaaay too big to fit in my ass. sorry your mother was neglectful and CPS had to intervene. cheers mate.

    • richard

      also let me just through this out there. you are a republican, god loving, gun loving… high school (maybe GED)educated, unemployed lower middle class citizen. i am going off the cps thing and the fact that you say “tard” a lot. kinda of a low class way to talk. me a bleeding heart liberal, educated (beyond high school), highly employed upper class citizen. so in other words my taxes (that people like you complain about ) pays for your public aid and for sammy nikolayev’s upcoming cardiac surgery. and i am in support of all of that. kinda twisted rightt?

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      Fuck PG, FUCK PC and especially FUCK YOU

    • richard

      issues much? let me guess you grew up in an abusive/violent home and now have anger issues. too bad there was not a group of people who could have helped protect you. like a service that would protect children. could you imagine. just think how much better of a person you could have been. best to you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      Don’t push your views or emotions on to others… I was never abused or shown violence in anyway I just don’t like being called a liar by a retarded trolling dick sucker.

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      I’m former military with 2 degrees, I came from a good home with good people, I served my country, I was disabled during Iraq, don’t talk down to me, I made my bones in this world.. all I see in you is a waste of space, and a trolling low life, don’t accuse people of shit when you obviously have no knowledge of WTF you are talking about.. seriously I turned out just fine.. however I pity you for not being able to tell your ass from a hole in the ground.

    • richard

      thanks for serving our county. you know the one that values the welfare of children. you are right I dont know “wtf i am talking about.” I just got lucky and predicted the outcome of this drama.

      off to review my netter anatomy text…gonna focus on the excritory / GI system…see if I can get a handle on the whole “ass” versus hole in the ground thing

    • richard

      by the way..it occurred to me that you reference my “ass” and asses in general bery often in your writing.. You know its okay to be

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      You are truly a lowlife to troll such a serious site.

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      God don’t speak again your stupidity is harmful..

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      Another thing why would I make up this story in the first place you fucking moron?

    • Raelene

      I’m just wondering if this child was placed back in ICU? Or was he placed in a foster home? And if a foster home, then why the big hoopla over taking him without a discharge? I wasn’t aware that you loose your rights to your child and when and where your child has to be just because a doctor said it must be so. I thought that if you signed a paper, that you didn’t agree with the doctors and that you were removing your child even though they were not discharging him, that that is your right. Since you seem to have the most facts concerning this, I thought I would ask you.

    • richard

      infant is back in a hospital.

      discharge AMA (“against medical advice”) is a complex matter of health law particularly as it pertains to children and minors. an adult patient that is medically competent may remove them-self from treatment by signing AMA with little conflict. these parents did not sign out AMA…they just took the baby out of the ICU. medically-legally the treating physician continues to be culpable for the childs wealthfare. imagine a situation where a child taken from an ICU was found dead at home the following day (not this infant…just a general case); the physician would be sued amd lose his lisence for not ensuring safe discharge or transfer of care. it is obviously more complex, but beyond the scope of this site.

    • Raelene

      And I would like to qualify my previous comment with my opinion that I don’t think it is in the best interest to remove the child without a doctors discharge, but if the parents truly felt that they should seek a second opinion and the first hospital was not allowing it (which I do find hard to believe), then I would say take your child and run to another hospital.

  • http://www.facebook.com/paulirina.bliznyuk Paul Irina Bliznyuk

    Someone is trying to keep the story out of the media, they shut down the facebook page “bring sammy home.” But people can go to the person who is next to the mother all the time: https://www.facebook.com/ilya.l.nikolayev

  • Steve & Leslie Weightman

    Protest on the street in front of CPS and the police station. Let your voice be heard.

  • Som Oh

    Is there any petition board or form we can fill and send online?

  • mark

    This child was kidnapped for being white. CPS is aggressively targeting white children in order to artificially produce ‘racial equality’ in their statistics. Political correctness is a far higher priority for these nazis than actually helping any children that are being abused. They did the same thing to a white child in New Jersey in 2010. If you are a white family and have ANY contact with CPS- get a lawyer immediately or your child will be kidnapped by these CPS Nazis, who will then try to fool a judge by lying about you. CPS is specifically targeting white families that are not wealthy enough to afford a private attorney because it makes it easier for CPS to fool a judge and get away with the kidnapping.

    • richard

      yep…this sums it all up nicely. check and mate. :-D

  • John

    Please support this family. This should not be happening in this country.
    The kidnapping Sammy Nikolayev by Police and CPS stuff should be investigated and
    punished by all severity of
    the law. The chief of Sacramento CPS should
    resign!

    • http://www.facebook.com/fobos.dudo Fobos Dudo

      legally, it was not a kidnapping. morally, it was. cps fucked up big time for sure.

      but do me a favor. if you can figure otu a way. contact this family and warn them. warn them of Alex Jones of infowars. He is a bastard conspiracy salesman who will use their tragedy to further his own goals and do so without a second thought. warn them so they do not have to deal with him along with this insanity.

    • Brian Corcoran

      What do you know of Alex Jones and the Infowars website? Alex Jones could do these people enormous good by given their cause some much needed publicity. Alex Jones is a good man. I’m sure Alex would love to have this couple on his program to hear their side of the story. CPS, of course, would decline such an offer.

    • richard

      isn’ he the crazy “not gonna take our guns…1776 will commence again” guy? yeah he is a great media figure

    • dragon6actual

      dragon6actual • 5 minutes ago

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      According to an article on Opposing Views, the child was given an antibiotic by a nurse at the frist hospital. The mother asked the nurse what she was giving the child and why, and the nurse either did not or could not answer. The mother contacted the doctor of that hospital, who stated that the child should NOT have been given antibiotics, and that the child must undergo emergency heart surgery.
      The mother became concerned regarding the competency of the hospital staff due to the antibiotic episode, and took her child to obtain a second opinion.
      This is CLEARLY a case of the hospital, child protective services and the police department overstepping their authority. I hope and pray this takes the social worker who accompanied police, the officers who entered the house without a warrrant, the doctor at the first hospital, Child “Protective” Services, the police department, the hospital and the city to court and sues – not for millions, but for OWNERSHIP.
      The God complex runs amok in many doctors, law encorcement officers and social workers. This needs to stop.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

    I was taken from my parents after my mother discovered a bruise on my
    brothers side… my mother freaked did the right thing and took my
    brother into the hospital, the hospital claimed my mother beat the
    child.. oddly you could touch the bruise no tenderness, he was scanned
    no internal bleeding and he wasn’t showing any signs of being in pain..
    really strange right? The next day while at a receiving home the
    “bruise” washed off.. it turns out the shirts my mother bought from
    K-Mart weren’t color fastened properly and my brother being 2 yrs old wet
    clean through his diaper onto a the shirt that bled the ink onto his
    side and dried overnight.. my mother doing the responsible thing had her
    kids taken away without any real evidence and here’s the funny thing
    after the “bruise” washed off they still had to go through red tape to
    get us back home… Guess where I live? That’s right Sacramento CA.. if I’m not mistaken my Mom took him to Sutter.

    • http://www.facebook.com/yana32 Yana Krikov

      That’s crazy. How long did it take for your mom to get you guys back?

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.dow.9 Donald Dow

      My aunt was able to pull us out of the receiving home in about a weeks time.. after that it only took a week because my mother threatened too sue

    • R0chambeau

      Why didn’t you sue since obviously the evidence would show misconduct?

    • Donald Dow

      My mom just didn’t want to take it that far

  • Connie Davis

    HEART SURGERY IS SERIOUS AND I WOULDN’T WANT MY CHILD TO UNDER GO SUCH A SURGERY WITHOUT A SECOND OPINION. IT SOUNDS LIKE THESE DOCTORS ARE ALARMIST. MY CHILDREN WERE IN THE HOSPITAL FOR LUNG INFECTION AND MY SON KEPT THROWING UP. HE WAS GOING DOWN HILL FAST. I FINALLY WENT TO THE NURSES STATION AND TOLD THEM TO REMOVE THE ANTIBIOTICS. I GAVE THEM NO CHOICE. MY SON WAS BETTER BY MORNING AND WAS RELEASED. THE DOCTORS DON’T ALWAYS HAVE THE CORRECT MEDICINE. IF THAT HAD HAPPENED TODAY I WOULD PROBABLY FACE CPS TOO. AT ONE TIME IN AMERICA PARENTS HAD A SAY…….. THE FINAL SAY. I’M SO GRATEFUL I HAD THE COURAGE TO STAND UP TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE THE DOCTOR WAS OVER DOSING MY SON ON ANTIBIOTICS.

    • richard

      connie I bet you and Mark (see post below) drink from thensame water supply. I am just teasing :-p

  • WSB

    I was born with a congenital heart defect and have had several open heart surgeries.

    The parents in this case should be applauded for wanting a second opinion. They did everything right, everything you should do before allowing your child to have a major surgery such as what is being suggested. You ALWAYS get a second opinion before your child to be operated on… If that is considered neglect then my parents are guilty of it. They got me second/third and even fourth opinions in some cases.

    Treatment for congenital heart defects varies a lot from facility to facility, Dr. to Dr. It is up to the PARENTS to decide which options are best for them.

    I hope the person/persons behind this child being removed by CPS are removed from their jobs. It is obvious they have no clue in dealing with children with compromised health and are not looking out for the best interest of the child in this case!

    • richard

      and someone your parents (and the thousands of other parents who get second opinions)…did not have a CPS case against them. very strange. makes you wonder of this case involves something else…some issue besides a second opinion. WSB you may be on too something.

    • skye

      Maybe because they’re Russian!

    • richard

      You sound as brilliant as Mark (read 2 comments below)!

    • CPS= Evil

      Exactly! Except they turned out to be very smart Russians…oooops! Wrong person to pick on.

    • Tom Jones

      Makes you wonder if the doctor fudged the report a little bit because his ego was bruised. Maybe the dad got angry at him and told him they were leaving and getting a second opinion to his face! Maybe other people in the hospital saw it and the doctor lost face. Oh my! Maybe he thought he saw a lion, a tiger, and a bear, when in fact he saw lots of dollar signs in the air. We may never know the truth of the matter. Maybe the parents were abusing their child horribly, or, maybe the child died because the parents took him out of the hospital. I’m sure it’s just a big cover up to make the doctor look bad. I mean not signing your child out of ICU when you think that the hospital might kill him is definitely a lot worse than letting them operate on the child just because doctor misdiagnoses said so.

    • richard

      yeah all about the money. now consider this…odds that this family is medi-cal; pretty high. so judged ruled that the infant will be transferred to Stanford where I can guarantee surgery will take place. guess who will pay the costs pf the CPS case, the courts time, the cost of the medical transfer and the surgery? yep you and me prof. jones. :-/

  • Elohir

    This is absolutely unacceptable. This sounds like China
    or North Korea! Yes, we need to protect our children, but NEVER should a
    child be taken from the parents without informing them (and the PUBLIC) as to
    WHY! Yes, I say the public, because our tax money pays for CPS. If
    they are acting as representatives of the American people, they need to be held
    FULLY accountable. CPS has been responsible for the destruction of so
    many families, they should be under additional scrutiny. If they have a
    legitimate reason to keep the child from their parents, then at a BARE MINIMUM,
    the parents are innocent until proven guilty. They have a right to know
    WHY their child is being taken, and not some two-word generic response.

    CPS needs to grilled for this, as well as Sutter. It
    is amazing how much these ‘privacy laws’ are being used to prevent us from
    knowing about government activities. There better be some substantial
    justification for these actions on the part of CPS, and probably Sutter, or
    they should have HELL to pay. Bureaucracy and privacy are no excuses to keep
    a child from his parents for this length of time… to Sammy, a few days is a
    large chunk of lifetime and will have a deleterious impact on his emotional
    development!

    In any event, it is time the whole concept of what is CPS,
    how it is funded, how it functions, and it’s oversight needs to be completely
    re-visited. There is a big problem when parents are more worried about
    the damage CPS can do to a family instead of being confident they can protect
    their children.

    Write your state congressman & senators! It is
    time for CPS to be abolished and re-built from scratch!!! Do not stand
    for this abuse of our personal freedom & liberty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/daniel.perez.7737 Daniel Perez

    This story disgust me! I cant beleive that this is still America! I swear to god, if this was my child, there would be hell to pay! Give this child back to its parents. WTF is this??? How dare any state officials enter a home without a warrant and kidnap a child from its own parents. A child will suffer much more away from its mother than with its mother. Why is she not allowed to visit her baby more than for one hour?

  • James Miller

    You can’t just grab a sick child out of the hospital. The correct procedure wasn’t followed.
    Been to Sutter several times with wife’s heart attack and they are extremely conscientious. Signs posted as to allergies and multiple verifications before doing anything. Will look forward to seeing how this works out and what the Judge has to say.

  • Lewis

    If the allegations against CPS and Sutter prove true, there should be serious consequences. The taking of the child without a release could be questioned but the actions of having Sammy removed especially when Anna and Alex took Sammy to another hospital/doctor immediately, should have vindicated any wrong doing. This may be the system at its worst. This may be a Doctors pride getting in the way. Sutter should have investigated immediately and gotten out front of the situation. If there ever was a story for a medical TV show, this is it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1703089550 Adrian Rush

    It’s their kid. If they want to take him out of the hospital, they have every right to. Jesus, if anyone else did this, it would be kidnapping. But because it’s the government, it’s somehow OK? This country turns into more of a police state every day.

  • Kristina Aleksentseva

    Thank God the Son was returned to the hes Family guys I WAS PRAYING FOR YOU AND FOR you’ Baby boy…. GOD BLESS YOU and your family

    • richard

      Uhmmm actually no he was not returned. He must stay in the hospital and be directly transfered to Stanford. All that changed was that parents now have unrestricted visits (which was obviously gonna happen).

  • libertygirl330

    Richard…just because you are a pediatric specialist doesnt mean you are a skilled one. I am a nurse and have had to deal with my fair share of idiot doctors. If the parents wanted a second opinion, another doctor can give their recommendation and strongly advise against leaving the hospital…but that doesnt mean shit. It still is the parent’s right to make the decision. Hell…i wouldnt expect my patients to be comfortable with me administering a medication if i had no idea what i was giving them or what it was for. If the parents were not comfortable…and took their child to another hospital for another opinion..there is nothing wrong with that! It shows that they were scared and concerned for their child. Just because someone doesnt bend over and worship a physician doesnt make them deserving of a retaliation with CPS…the biggest scum agency on earth. They damage more children than anything. I have unfortunately seen cases where there is actual abuse and it continues…and other cases where there is no damage in the homes and families are still ripped apart. You are not a god “doctor” richard of pediatrics. People are more likely to be killed by their own doctor than a lot of other ailments in this world. You should just go back to your masonic lodge with your fascist buddies and do whatever it is you do there. Im so over you sheeple.

    • richard

      agreed, my comments here are not a reflection of my skills or abilities. it is a reflection of the ludicrosity (dont google that…its a made up word) of the claims people make. for example, people are more likely to be killed by their doctor than a lot of other ailments. really? show me proof of that…any study…any data and i will sign the deed of my home over to you.

      and what you do not get os that it is not the parents choice to take a medically fragile minor out of an icu. we are not talking about vaccines or about an adult refusing chemotherapy. its a minor with no voice or no choice with a congenital heart defect who decompensated during an acute viral illness and needed icu care. its really not that hard. it should be particularly simple for a good nurse to understand.

  • dustin

    http://wh.gov/zqcJ

    The link above takes you to the Whitehouse website to a petition to the president to stop this from happening again. Please sign for this family and others like them that this has happened to

  • Jenny

    I believe they have returned the child to his parents… the government is getting waaaaaaayyyy out of hand when you cant have say over your, or your own child’s, medical care… i never knew i had to have “permission” to leave a hospital.. makes me wonder what if the hospital refuses to let you go?? what all do you “HAVE” to put up with before you are allowed to leave??

    • rochard

      you are an adult you can do whatever you want. you are sick…you can choose to go to the ER. you don’t like the ER then we are glad to let you leave after you sign out AMA. that rule does not apply to children. they cannot consent for themselves. numerous christian science, jehovah witness, etc parents have recoeved treatment formfor children. many had their loves saved by the court and othersndied. you want tonrefuse life saving therapy … be our guest. that is not an option for a child.

  • JMMom

    that is just awful, give these people their baby back! I couldnt even imagine what these people are going through.

  • Kiwismommy

    There are certain situations requiring mandatory reporting in educational and medical settings. The disconnect here is that the social agencies have an obligation to do an investigation. Child removal is to be the last line of defense. Had CPS done even a basic investigation in this case they would have talked to the 2nd doctor at Kaiser, then would have visited the home, explained the situation to the parents, read the medical paperwork from Kaiser and probably left the child in the home, followed up once or twice at a later date and then closed the case file. But across this country, this is now becoming the standard course of action and not some bizarre anomaly. Children are being removed as the first action, often without investigations or home visits, and once that happens, no amount of great parenting or findings of fact seem to affect the situation. Once CPS has committed to a course of action, they seem paralyzed to backtrack without furthr risking huge legal settlements made against them. The reason for the promised visitations is to continue to make it appear the removal was somehow justified, even if it was not. All standard procedures and due diligence were ignored. The civil rights of this family were grossly violated.

    The problem with current U.S. family law is that there is no transparency and no requirements for evidence collection or presentation. Sometimes a belligerent and vengeful case worker can write anything they want to as their “judgment” of a situation
    all based on hearsay, rumors, bias, etc. and most judges must give them the benefit of the doubt, until a later date when additional information or evidence may be gathered or presented. The same rules do not apply to family court as criminal court and children can be removed based on the opinion of a single case worker without a single shred of
    evidence that might be required in a criminal court.

    Most families have no chance to even present evidence, testimony, or their side for many months into the process and in the meantime are deprived of the company and ability to care for their child or children. A lot of this has come about since the 80’s when well-intentioned federal legislation went terribly awry. The idea was to incentivize
    adoptions of orphan children and children within the foster care system where it was determined they could not be returned to their parents. The CPS offices would receive the funds as bonuses for their hard work in getting children adopted. The numbers were abysmal and they really had no incentive, other than the happiness of children to get kids adopted. Since that time, offices have learned to depend on those incentive payments to fund their offices, expansion of their bureacracy, etc. and hence instead of being incentivized to simply adopt out children with desperate need, they have been incentivized to find reasons to remove children and also determine as quickly as possible the inability to return them to the parents, no matter how trivial the reasons for removal might be.

    There are thousands that do not get the publicity that this case did and in all those cases, children are simply lost from parents forever. These parents are almost never charged with an offense or crime as none have been committed, it is simply a CPS case workers determination that something is or is not negligent or abusive. Unlike
    criminal court where the laws of the land guarantee you a right to a trial by jury and that you will be represented by an attorney, there are no such rights or guarantees in family courts. They are a system unto themselves. No one is trained in evidence collection as when dealing with the police. There are no standards to be met in court for ‘evidence’ of abuse or neglect except the opinions and observations of CPS workers. There really is no precedent for this in U.S. history where you have almost zero rights and must pray for the mercy of a judge that may not be slanted toward CPS.

    Even in cases where it is proven they were dead wrong there is no accountability, culpability, or liability. Case workers are given a free pass under some assumption they were truly looking out for the best interests of the child/children even when evidence points otherwise. It has become a rather sick and corrupt system more likened to child knapping than anything remotely resembling a court of law where all the rights and priviledges of a citizen must be honored. It is a secretive court where all but the participants are locked out based on the notion of “privacy” of children, even when parents have chosen to go public. And often, in the rare cases where children are returned to parents and CPS harshly spoken to by a judge, all participants are put on gag orders to ensure there is no effect on the overall system and simply chalked up as an exception, not a rule.

    There are many high profile cases around the U.S. and Canada right now where CPS offices have obviously over-stepped their bounds, making decisions on parenting based on politics, religion, medical choices that do not endanger a child, disabilities in both children or parents, and other nefarious decisions that would not stand up in a real court but seem to hold weight in family courts where no rules of evidence are found. The entire system needs to be completely restructured or done away with so we can return to the rule of law. Parents should either be charged with a crime for abuse or neglect or there is no basis and their children remain with them.

    The other side of this is the extensive studies that have been done proving a child is more in danger of injury or death in foster care than outside of care. That children in care are drugged at an excessive rate compared to children not in care, often for the ease of care not because the child requires any type of anti-psychotic or neuroleptic drugs. The thousands of children beaten, raped, or killed by older kids in group homes before a foster home is found. Children in care are more likely to run away, not graduate from High School, be problems in school, and suffer from long term mental issues and relationship consequences than children that remain in their homes even in borderline situations. Extensive peer reviewed studies have shown that in cases where families lacked adequate housing, needed help with job seeking skills, or even help with alcohol
    addictions, providing treatment, counseling, and follow-up while leaving children with their parents proved to have the best outcomes for children all around. And when parents beat their problems and get out of the system but with the child there to witness their actions, sacrifices, and efforts, these have the best outcomes of all, as the
    child/children not only remain stable but are able to witness the love and devotion shown by their parents to insure the stability of all and the future of their children.

    We have learned little in the last 100 years as we have simply moved from one failed concept to another, never looking at long term consequences nor giving proper weight to the short term devastation that the removal of a child/children can have on parents and children alike. As a society we certainly comprehend the devastation caused by the death of a child, but show little regard for the damage done to adults and children alike when they are violently ripped from each others arms, kept away from each other for long periods of time, with the flimsiest of reasoning and backing. Few targeted can afford the proper attorneys that would end the drama quickly and is why we typically see as the targets the poor, foreigners, or single parents. The long sweeping arm grows daily where we now see open and supportive conversations online of even removing kids from parents because of obesity or disability of the child. This is a slippery slope we are on that grows more dangerous every day. You have to speak out, protest, march, demand change in our laws and agencies, unless you want to wait until it is your child and no one will stand up for you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/george.hilbert George Hilbert

    Nanny state knows best.

    “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.”

    George Orwell

  • dragon6actual

    According to an article on Opposing Views, the child was given an antibiotic by a nurse at the frist hospital. The mother asked the nurse what she was giving the child and why, and the nurse either did not or could not answer. The mother contacted the doctor of that hospital, who stated that the child should NOT have been given antibiotics, and that the child must undergo emergency heart surgery.
    The mother became concerned regarding the competency of the hospital staff due to the antibiotic episode, and took her child to obtain a second opinion.
    This is CLEARLY a case of the hospital, child protective services and the police department overstepping their authority. I hope and pray this takes the social worker who accompanied police, the officers who entered the house without a warrrant, the doctor at the first hospital, Child “Protective” Services, the police department, the hospital and the city to court and sues – not for millions, but for OWNERSHIP.
    The God complex runs amok in many doctors, law encorcement officers and social workers. This needs to stop.