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		<title>By: Choosing Integrity Over Manipulation &#124; Slow Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>Choosing Integrity Over Manipulation &#124; Slow Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Obama or McCain: Charismatic or Traditional Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama or McCain: Charismatic or Traditional Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brown from the Core Edge Image &amp; Charisma Institute shared a very interesting comment on 8 Steps to Charismatic Leadership that gave me pause, and made me realize I needed to share it with you: There appears to be two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Мениджърски умения, подвеждащи реклами, работа и бизнес: 02.10.2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Мениджърски умения, подвеждащи реклами, работа и бизнес: 02.10.2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Осем стъпки за харизматично лидерство - дефиниция на лидерството, обяснение на ролята на доверието в процеса на лидерство и описание на осемте качества на харизматичния лидер. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Simonton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Simonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

There are a ton of styles, but effectively managing people and leadership skills are not about style.  Style is an excuse to not do what is needed.  No, managing/leading effectively is about doing what the people being managed need in order to do a better job. in order to unleash their full potential of creativity, innovation, productivity, motivation and commitment on their work.

Marcus Buckingham in the employ of Gallup has done us a great service in this by surveying over 3 million workforce members and 80,000 managers.  They learned the most from the workforce since a manager must understand how they react to managerial actions in order to manage them effectively.  Buckingham also determined ways to measure whether or not managers were effective by surveying the workforce.  This Gallup&#039;s Q12 survey.

Although I agree somewhat with Buckingham and applaud him for his work, I believe that managerial effectiveness can best be determined by measuring what the manager does against a set of proven performance standards.  By proven, I mean the ones I used and caused my subordinate managers to use in successfully turning around four different management disasters, causing each to be able to blow away competitors.  The result was always the same and always far better than anyone dreamed possible.

Best regards, Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>There are a ton of styles, but effectively managing people and leadership skills are not about style.  Style is an excuse to not do what is needed.  No, managing/leading effectively is about doing what the people being managed need in order to do a better job. in order to unleash their full potential of creativity, innovation, productivity, motivation and commitment on their work.</p>
<p>Marcus Buckingham in the employ of Gallup has done us a great service in this by surveying over 3 million workforce members and 80,000 managers.  They learned the most from the workforce since a manager must understand how they react to managerial actions in order to manage them effectively.  Buckingham also determined ways to measure whether or not managers were effective by surveying the workforce.  This Gallup&#8217;s Q12 survey.</p>
<p>Although I agree somewhat with Buckingham and applaud him for his work, I believe that managerial effectiveness can best be determined by measuring what the manager does against a set of proven performance standards.  By proven, I mean the ones I used and caused my subordinate managers to use in successfully turning around four different management disasters, causing each to be able to blow away competitors.  The result was always the same and always far better than anyone dreamed possible.</p>
<p>Best regards, Ben</p>
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		<title>By: @Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points. I do agree that there are nearly as many leadership styles as there are leaders, that is one of the conundrums of teaching leadership skills.

&gt;&gt;JM - Creating a team (or teams) is absolutely one of the goals of being a successful leader. It has a lot to do with the size of the group or organization that one leads.

Thanks for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points. I do agree that there are nearly as many leadership styles as there are leaders, that is one of the conundrums of teaching leadership skills.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;JM &#8211; Creating a team (or teams) is absolutely one of the goals of being a successful leader. It has a lot to do with the size of the group or organization that one leads.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of good things have been said in the article and the comments however I miss two things in my definition of Leadership: Being a leader is also being able to listen and being able to create a team. 
Sure you can rely on trust by making one by one your team member autonomous but if you are not able to create a real team based on each individual interaction you will miss a very powerful leverage of your leadership as this group will first go for internal competition rather than adding all values two create something stronger.
If you are not able to listen and putting yourself in someone else shoes, you will generate frustration, mistrust or suspiciousness and so will lose your leadership.

Best regards, JM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of good things have been said in the article and the comments however I miss two things in my definition of Leadership: Being a leader is also being able to listen and being able to create a team.<br />
Sure you can rely on trust by making one by one your team member autonomous but if you are not able to create a real team based on each individual interaction you will miss a very powerful leverage of your leadership as this group will first go for internal competition rather than adding all values two create something stronger.<br />
If you are not able to listen and putting yourself in someone else shoes, you will generate frustration, mistrust or suspiciousness and so will lose your leadership.</p>
<p>Best regards, JM</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There appears to be two dominant leadership models on the current world stage, Charismatic Leadership (often described as arousing the emotions of the populous through imagery and poetic prose) and Traditional Leadership (Often described as operations-centric and unilateral while courting consensus building).  Interesting enough, both forms are effective, but only under specific social-economic conditions.  During times of uncertainty and upheaval, Charismatic Leadership is effective at restoring hope and productivity. Once the crisis has  abated, Traditional Leadership is effective for stabilizing operations and maintaining a steady course until another shake up emerges.  The important dynamic essential for the two models to be effective is the competency of the Charismatic and Traditional Leader. The two models represent a particular philosophy as well as direction, which require scholarship and experience.  The U.S.&#039;s current tumultuous conditions favor the Charismatic Model.  But, the Charismatic Model steeped with experience as much as style.

Edward Brown
Core Edge Image &amp; Charisma Institute</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There appears to be two dominant leadership models on the current world stage, Charismatic Leadership (often described as arousing the emotions of the populous through imagery and poetic prose) and Traditional Leadership (Often described as operations-centric and unilateral while courting consensus building).  Interesting enough, both forms are effective, but only under specific social-economic conditions.  During times of uncertainty and upheaval, Charismatic Leadership is effective at restoring hope and productivity. Once the crisis has  abated, Traditional Leadership is effective for stabilizing operations and maintaining a steady course until another shake up emerges.  The important dynamic essential for the two models to be effective is the competency of the Charismatic and Traditional Leader. The two models represent a particular philosophy as well as direction, which require scholarship and experience.  The U.S.&#8217;s current tumultuous conditions favor the Charismatic Model.  But, the Charismatic Model steeped with experience as much as style.</p>
<p>Edward Brown<br />
Core Edge Image &amp; Charisma Institute</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Simonton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Simonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leadership can be defined rather precisely because it is defined by what followers follow, not by the characteristics of leaders.  Leaders can lead in a good or bad direction and followers will follow.  People are like machines in that they have certain characteristics and these characteristics dictate how they must be treated in order to maximize their output.

Leadership applies to people and entails the sending of value standard messages to people which most of them then follow/use. Thus we say that they have been &quot;led&quot; in the direction of those standards. Leadership is one side of the coin called values, the other side being followership.

Leadership in the workplace consists of the value standards reflected in everything an employee experiences because these standards are what employees follow by using them to perform their work. Most of what the employee experiences is the support or lack thereof provided by management - such as training, tools, parts, discipline, direction, material, procedures, rules, technical advice, documentation, information, planning, etc.

Leadership is not a process any manager can change.  It happens inexorably every minute of every day because of the way people respond to management actions. The only choice available to a manager is the standard (good, bad, mediocre or in between) which he/she transmits to employees.

Because of these characteristics, &quot;followership&quot; turns out to be a major force in managing people.  Those managers who take advantage of it can become extremely effective at &quot;managing&quot; their human capital.

For example, let&#039;s look at the top-down command and control technique that is the most widely used method to manage people. 

Top-down concentrates on producing goals, targets, visions, orders and other directives in order to control the workforce and thereby achieve organizational success. Focusing on giving direction prevents these managers from doing much of anything else. Thus top-down treats employees like robots in the &quot;shut up and listen, I know better than you&quot; mode, and rarely if ever listens to them. By so doing this approach ignores every employee&#039;s basic need to be heard and to be respected. In addition, not listening to employees makes top management ignorant of what is really going on in the workplace thus making their directives misguided at best and irrelevant at worst.

There are many more things wrong about top-down and it results in a very low performance by the workforce, far lower than they are capable of producing.  Its opposite can achieve an opposite result wherein people unleash their full potential of creativity, innovation, productivity, motivation, and commitment on their work.  This after all should be the only primary goal of managing people. 

I proved this to be true in my 30+ years of managing people, and that included effecting four successful turnarounds of management disasters.  Of course, it took me 12 years to escape the top-down command and control approach.

To more about how to manage people, please read these &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bensimonton.com/articles.html&quot;&gt;Leadership Articles&lt;/a&gt; starting with the article &quot;Leadership, Good or Bad&quot;.

Best regards, Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leadership can be defined rather precisely because it is defined by what followers follow, not by the characteristics of leaders.  Leaders can lead in a good or bad direction and followers will follow.  People are like machines in that they have certain characteristics and these characteristics dictate how they must be treated in order to maximize their output.</p>
<p>Leadership applies to people and entails the sending of value standard messages to people which most of them then follow/use. Thus we say that they have been &#8220;led&#8221; in the direction of those standards. Leadership is one side of the coin called values, the other side being followership.</p>
<p>Leadership in the workplace consists of the value standards reflected in everything an employee experiences because these standards are what employees follow by using them to perform their work. Most of what the employee experiences is the support or lack thereof provided by management &#8211; such as training, tools, parts, discipline, direction, material, procedures, rules, technical advice, documentation, information, planning, etc.</p>
<p>Leadership is not a process any manager can change.  It happens inexorably every minute of every day because of the way people respond to management actions. The only choice available to a manager is the standard (good, bad, mediocre or in between) which he/she transmits to employees.</p>
<p>Because of these characteristics, &#8220;followership&#8221; turns out to be a major force in managing people.  Those managers who take advantage of it can become extremely effective at &#8220;managing&#8221; their human capital.</p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s look at the top-down command and control technique that is the most widely used method to manage people. </p>
<p>Top-down concentrates on producing goals, targets, visions, orders and other directives in order to control the workforce and thereby achieve organizational success. Focusing on giving direction prevents these managers from doing much of anything else. Thus top-down treats employees like robots in the &#8220;shut up and listen, I know better than you&#8221; mode, and rarely if ever listens to them. By so doing this approach ignores every employee&#8217;s basic need to be heard and to be respected. In addition, not listening to employees makes top management ignorant of what is really going on in the workplace thus making their directives misguided at best and irrelevant at worst.</p>
<p>There are many more things wrong about top-down and it results in a very low performance by the workforce, far lower than they are capable of producing.  Its opposite can achieve an opposite result wherein people unleash their full potential of creativity, innovation, productivity, motivation, and commitment on their work.  This after all should be the only primary goal of managing people. </p>
<p>I proved this to be true in my 30+ years of managing people, and that included effecting four successful turnarounds of management disasters.  Of course, it took me 12 years to escape the top-down command and control approach.</p>
<p>To more about how to manage people, please read these <a href="http://www.bensimonton.com/articles.html">Leadership Articles</a> starting with the article &#8220;Leadership, Good or Bad&#8221;.</p>
<p>Best regards, Ben</p>
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		<title>By: @Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Brandon, You make an excellent point about communication being vital, in fact I would go even further and say that it is an over-arching requirement, that is, &quot;successful leaders - people with vision and the ability to communicate that vision in order to inspire others.&quot;
If you can&#039;t (or won&#039;t) learn to communicate, then the rest is meaningless.

&gt;&gt;Kevin, Thanks for your suggestion about &quot;passion&quot; and &quot;values&quot;, the alignment of those two IS a very powerful factor in one&#039;s success as a leader. That discussion is likely worth a post of it&#039;s own!

&gt;&gt;Corinne, yes, one can be born with charisma and use it for evil. As CK mentioned, we should focus on the positive and optimistic uses of leadership.

Thanks for the discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Brandon, You make an excellent point about communication being vital, in fact I would go even further and say that it is an over-arching requirement, that is, &#8220;successful leaders &#8211; people with vision and the ability to communicate that vision in order to inspire others.&#8221;<br />
If you can&#8217;t (or won&#8217;t) learn to communicate, then the rest is meaningless.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Kevin, Thanks for your suggestion about &#8220;passion&#8221; and &#8220;values&#8221;, the alignment of those two IS a very powerful factor in one&#8217;s success as a leader. That discussion is likely worth a post of it&#8217;s own!</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Corinne, yes, one can be born with charisma and use it for evil. As CK mentioned, we should focus on the positive and optimistic uses of leadership.</p>
<p>Thanks for the discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brandon -

It&#039;s not all about &quot;charisma&quot; but the application of leadership. Remember that Ted Bundy had charisma - that doesn&#039;t mean it was usered for good! 
But what &quot;charismatic leadership&quot; comes to mind for me is more along the lines of JFK, Mother Teresa, and even MLK &quot;I have a dream&quot; speech, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brandon -</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not all about &#8220;charisma&#8221; but the application of leadership. Remember that Ted Bundy had charisma &#8211; that doesn&#8217;t mean it was usered for good!<br />
But what &#8220;charismatic leadership&#8221; comes to mind for me is more along the lines of JFK, Mother Teresa, and even MLK &#8220;I have a dream&#8221; speech, etc.</p>
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