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		<title>By: Staley</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-295608</link>
		<dc:creator>Staley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been trying to get a refund for moneys paid to Elite and Cuppies for a new franchise.  I followed the termination documents and they came back to saying I&#039;m not eligible for a refund because they didn&#039;t do anything wrong,  It&#039;s been a year and they still will not refund or provide me service.  Does anyone know if they filled bankruptcy and if so where.  Do you have any contact information on them so we can file class lawsuits against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been trying to get a refund for moneys paid to Elite and Cuppies for a new franchise.  I followed the termination documents and they came back to saying I&#8217;m not eligible for a refund because they didn&#8217;t do anything wrong,  It&#8217;s been a year and they still will not refund or provide me service.  Does anyone know if they filled bankruptcy and if so where.  Do you have any contact information on them so we can file class lawsuits against them.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-297083</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/09/cuppys-coffee-interview-with-franchisee-rick-noem/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE: Interview With Franchisee Rick Noem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&#160; Rick Noem tells how he gave Cuppy&#039;s Coffee a deposit of $125,000 in March, 2008 shortly before Dale Nabors took over.&#160; He&#039;s been unable to get even workeable plans or his phone calls returned, much less construction.&#160; Meanwhile, he&#039;s gone broke paying $6000 a month rent and a $3000 monthly loan payment on a business that hasn&#039;t been built.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/09/cuppys-coffee-list-of-locations-status/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE: List of Locations, Status&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&#160; Here&#039;s the location list from the Cuppy&#039;s website.&#160; I&#039;ve started adding closed locations, and those who paid but never opened. Contribute additions or clarifications with a comment or by emailing unhappyfranchisee[at]gmail.com. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/08/cuppys-coffee-overview/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee Overview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160; &lt;/strong&gt;Here&#039;s a central page with links to Cuppy&#039;s Coffee franchisee interviews, stories, documents and information. Direct people here to get them up to speed on the Cuppy&#039;s Coffee story. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE complaints&quot; href=&quot;http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE, Java Jo&#8217;z, Elite Manufacturing, Medina Blogliography&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&#160; Franchise Pick&#039;s links to Cuppy&#039;s Coffee, Elite Manufacturing, AAFD, &amp; Java Jo&#039;z related posts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/09/cuppys-coffee-interview-with-franchisee-rick-noem/" rel="nofollow">CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE: Interview With Franchisee Rick Noem</a></strong>&#160; Rick Noem tells how he gave Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee a deposit of $125,000 in March, 2008 shortly before Dale Nabors took over.&#160; He&#8217;s been unable to get even workeable plans or his phone calls returned, much less construction.&#160; Meanwhile, he&#8217;s gone broke paying $6000 a month rent and a $3000 monthly loan payment on a business that hasn&#8217;t been built.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/09/cuppys-coffee-list-of-locations-status/" rel="nofollow">CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE: List of Locations, Status</a></strong>&#160; Here&#8217;s the location list from the Cuppy&#8217;s website.&#160; I&#8217;ve started adding closed locations, and those who paid but never opened. Contribute additions or clarifications with a comment or by emailing unhappyfranchisee[at]gmail.com. </p>
<p><strong><b><a href="http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/08/cuppys-coffee-overview/" rel="nofollow">Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee Overview</a></b>&#160;&#160; </strong>Here&#8217;s a central page with links to Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee franchisee interviews, stories, documents and information. Direct people here to get them up to speed on the Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee story. </p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/" rel="nofollow"></a><a title="CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE complaints" href="http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/" rel="nofollow">CUPPY&#8217;S COFFEE, Java Jo&#8217;z, Elite Manufacturing, Medina Blogliography</a></strong>&#160; Franchise Pick&#8217;s links to Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee, Elite Manufacturing, AAFD, &amp; Java Jo&#8217;z related posts.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-298977</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Cuppy&#039;s Coffee or Elite Manufacturing owe you a refund?&#160;&#160; Provide an update at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.franchisepick.com/does-cuppys-coffee-or-elite-manufacturing-owe-you-money/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Does Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee or Elite Manufacturing Owe You Money?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee or Elite Manufacturing owe you a refund?&#160;&#160; Provide an update at: <a href="http://www.franchisepick.com/does-cuppys-coffee-or-elite-manufacturing-owe-you-money/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Does Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee or Elite Manufacturing Owe You Money?</strong></a></p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-299336</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill:

It&#039;s not for lack of trying:
http://www.franchisepick.com/category/cuppys-coffee/
http://www.franchisepick.com/category/java-jozcuppys/
http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/

It&#039;s not easy to offset a PR machine and supposedly Franchisee organizations that give them awards so they can take more money from the unsuspecting.

If they don&#039;t pay the people still owed, I understand UnhappyFranchisee.Com is going to start an email campaign.  I hope you&#039;ll take part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not for lack of trying:<br />
<a href="http://www.franchisepick.com/category/cuppys-coffee/" rel="nofollow">http://www.franchisepick.com/category/cuppys-coffee/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.franchisepick.com/category/java-jozcuppys/" rel="nofollow">http://www.franchisepick.com/category/java-jozcuppys/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/" rel="nofollow">http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not easy to offset a PR machine and supposedly Franchisee organizations that give them awards so they can take more money from the unsuspecting.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t pay the people still owed, I understand UnhappyFranchisee.Com is going to start an email campaign.  I hope you&#8217;ll take part.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-299394</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are more people out there that want their money back.  Someone needs to post big and bold on yahoo or google and start the saying Cuppy&#039;s Coffee Drive thru Scam.  We have to stop them before they ruin more people&#039;s lives.  Please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are more people out there that want their money back.  Someone needs to post big and bold on yahoo or google and start the saying Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee Drive thru Scam.  We have to stop them before they ruin more people&#8217;s lives.  Please</p>
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		<title>By: Criston Menz</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-299901</link>
		<dc:creator>Criston Menz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cookie, please email me at cmenz@comcast.net regarding litigation and other ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cookie, please email me at <a href="mailto:cmenz@comcast.net">cmenz@comcast.net</a> regarding litigation and other ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: cookie</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-299963</link>
		<dc:creator>cookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do we all band together for a class action suit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do we all band together for a class action suit?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/another-cuppys-coffee-franchise-allegation-on-rip-off-report/comment-page-1/#comment-300136</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just between my previous post on this blog and now I have received an email from the BBB notifying me of a response to my complaint from Cuppy&#039;s.  I find that such a coincidence to be highly suspicious.  Anyways, I am informed that my complaint should be against Elite Manufacturing, not Cuppy&#039;s.  Perhaps this is true, and I will be filing a complaint today against Elite.  I more believe it to be a case of misdirection though since both Cuppy&#039;s and Elite are owned by the same parent company, Medina enterprises, and that Danny Jones, the man manner of us have been &quot;negotiating&quot; with is a Cuppy&#039;s employee, per Cuppy&#039;s press release detailing their South African expansions.

http://www.buyusa.gov/southafrica/en/474.html  
It does seem to be a shame though that no one at Cuppy&#039;s could have responded to this complaint in a timely manner.  Their entire strategy seems to consist of stall, stall, stall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just between my previous post on this blog and now I have received an email from the BBB notifying me of a response to my complaint from Cuppy&#8217;s.  I find that such a coincidence to be highly suspicious.  Anyways, I am informed that my complaint should be against Elite Manufacturing, not Cuppy&#8217;s.  Perhaps this is true, and I will be filing a complaint today against Elite.  I more believe it to be a case of misdirection though since both Cuppy&#8217;s and Elite are owned by the same parent company, Medina enterprises, and that Danny Jones, the man manner of us have been &#8220;negotiating&#8221; with is a Cuppy&#8217;s employee, per Cuppy&#8217;s press release detailing their South African expansions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buyusa.gov/southafrica/en/474.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.buyusa.gov/southafrica/en/474.html</a><br />
It does seem to be a shame though that no one at Cuppy&#8217;s could have responded to this complaint in a timely manner.  Their entire strategy seems to consist of stall, stall, stall.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was open for 8 months and sadly didn&#039;t make it.  You have to sell ALOT of coffee to pay the rent on 2500 SF. Elite did not provide all of the the equipment in the equipment package that they sold me.  The main (2) items that were missing were the custom pastry cooler and the lighted sign that belongs over the drive-thru.  Not as sad of a story as some of the others on these sites....I thank God that I didn&#039;t mortgage my home to finance the losses.

It may take a while to recover.....

Still healing in Arlington</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was open for 8 months and sadly didn&#8217;t make it.  You have to sell ALOT of coffee to pay the rent on 2500 SF. Elite did not provide all of the the equipment in the equipment package that they sold me.  The main (2) items that were missing were the custom pastry cooler and the lighted sign that belongs over the drive-thru.  Not as sad of a story as some of the others on these sites&#8230;.I thank God that I didn&#8217;t mortgage my home to finance the losses.</p>
<p>It may take a while to recover&#8230;..</p>
<p>Still healing in Arlington</p>
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		<title>By: Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee: Some Words from AAFD Raises More Questions &#124; Coffee Franchise Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee: Some Words from AAFD Raises More Questions &#124; Coffee Franchise Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ve found religion, Bob, but I have found another complaint: Another Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee Franchise Allegation on Rip-Off Report. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ve found religion, Bob, but I have found another complaint: Another Cuppy&#8217;s Coffee Franchise Allegation on Rip-Off Report. [...]</p>
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