Comments on: Apparently Mean Girls Just Don’t Grow Out of It

By: Zara

Zara — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:06:50 +0000

When stuff like this happens, sometimes you should analyse it/try to explain it as you did which was interesting and good to do. And sometimes you should do something else too: laugh. Just don’t take it all too seriously becuase some women just never become women, they stay stupid teenage girls and still fret over the stupid petty things because that’s always what they have done, and doing something new, acting like a ‘grown-up’ is just not what they are used to. And may never be.

By: Elisa Camahort Page

Elisa Camahort Page — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:20:49 +0000

Becca, how kind! Your comment just totally made my day (which up to now has been kind of frustrating because i’m just not getting everything done I expected to today,. you know how that goes?) So thanks!

By: Becca

Becca — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:15:13 +0000

Elisa, you’re my new personal hero!

By: Kristen King

Kristen King — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:16:43 +0000

Great comment, Carrie. The thing about power is that people only have it if we give it to them.

Thoughts?

By: Carrie

Carrie — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:26:33 +0000

It is nice to read something from someone who has no ties to either Dooce or Jenny. I totally appreciate your perspective and I also want to reiterate what others have said that I think (3rd handedly as I was not in the room, nor there) that it was a ridiculous abuse of power and I think it’s even more ridiculous that Dooce’s followers have that kind of power. Period.

The cattyness exists everywhere, at all ages and all genders – it’s just dealt with differently and there will always be people who feed into it, and those who thoughtfully observe.

Thank you for being the latter. Great Post.

By: Kristen

Kristen — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:44:41 +0000

Elisa, great clarification, and a good summary of your post. I hope the other commenters will go check it out. :)

By: Elisa Camahort Page

Elisa Camahort Page — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:04:40 +0000

Kristen: My comment was not so much in response to your very productive message for everyone to get some perspective and not contribute to the drama, it was more in response to comments I’ve seen here and elsewhere that include statements that this is just what happens when women interact. I simply reject that wholesale. This is what happens, on occasion, when humans interact. It doesn’t define our gender. It doesn’t define bloggers. It doesn’t define the Internet. And we can all, men and women, contribute to making the blogosphere, internet and world at large a better, more positive place!

End sermon :)

By: Kristen

Kristen — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:23:55 +0000

Great discussion, folks. I think this remark from Julie Pippert gets to the heart of the matter: “And if we did more asking and discussing, and less accusing and behind-the-back bitching, we’d all do better.” And I would also add that if we all minded our own business more instead of catapulting ourselves into other people’s issues, that might also help.

Elisa, interesting point about internalization. I’m suggesting that we make a concerted effort to buck the stereotype and stop the trend. Is that still internalizing the catfight label? To take ownership of the OPPOSITE of catfighting? I’m not sure.

By: Jozet at Halushki

Jozet at Halushki — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:49:06 +0000

“This is completely inaccurate. A Captain of Industry would never eat the small dogs and then stand on their backs. ”

I didn’t say that it was or wasn’t successful according to any particular definition of success, but it does happen. That’s completely accurate.

By: Barbara Ling, Virtual Coach

Barbara Ling, Virtual Coach — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:22:43 +0000

If one can’t say anything nice….

One should just calmly drink coffee and regroup. Life’s too short for angsty drama (unless it’s one’s family, that is)

Barbara