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	<title>Comments on: Are the 4Ps dead?</title>
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		<title>By: CmdrSue</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/are-the-4ps-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-310169</link>
		<dc:creator>CmdrSue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You mean he didn&#039;t come out with something catchy like, &lt;i&gt;&quot;The 4 Ps are about PRODUCT, so what we need to focus more on now are the 4 Cs about CUSTOMERS!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Things, I would guess, like Capture their attention, show them Courtesy, handle their account with Competence, and Cultivate a long-term relationship. Just sayin&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean he didn&#8217;t come out with something catchy like, <i>&#8220;The 4 Ps are about PRODUCT, so what we need to focus more on now are the 4 Cs about CUSTOMERS!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Things, I would guess, like Capture their attention, show them Courtesy, handle their account with Competence, and Cultivate a long-term relationship. Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Kelley</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/are-the-4ps-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-310229</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A link from Gregg K&#039;s blog brought me here. I agree that our marketing and publicity models are shifting, though awareness is coming very slowly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was involved in some internet buzz-creation about two years ago and had a fairly unique situation that let me see it unfold. My paying work was in a niche Quaker bookstore and its related websites; in the evenings I wrote a prominent Quaker blog. A great pamphlet was published, one that was pretty sure to fall into obscurity, but which I loved and which was only available through our bookstore. I posted about it on my blog but there were no immediate orders. A few weeks later another blogger was writing about a related issue and I commented about how this pamphlet addressed it in a fresh way, providing a link to my post. A few days later the blogger ordered it and within a few weeks he blogged about it. He brought it to a visioning committee he was involved with and I was able to see each committee-member order it in turn. Two months later they decided that every Quaker meeting in their region should get two copies and a mass order went out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did I create the buzz? Yes, but it wasn&#039;t a publicity campaign. I genuinely liked the pamphlet and talked it up on my personal blog. There would have been only one sale if the pamphlet hadn&#039;t been any good. I was coming to the conversation as a fellow customer that likes this niche so much that I had figured out a way to be gainfully employed in it. I wouldn&#039;t be able to sell some randomly-selected book that way (or I might be able to see one once before my audience saw I was selling-out!).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I feel that I should say that I was dismissed from this job a few weeks ago. Although I was constantly busy, my new supervisor kept asking me what I did with my time; I think he was suspicious of my after-hours blogging (he&#039;s the kind who can barely navigate email). I think my most important work is relational and I think its more important to empower those I worked with than to produce the most perfect product. I&#039;m not selling something so much as creating an audience for sales. I wonder if these paradigm differences are part of the reason I&#039;m sitting in my pajamas on a Monday afternoon surfing blogs and Craigslist postings...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A link from Gregg K&#8217;s blog brought me here. I agree that our marketing and publicity models are shifting, though awareness is coming very slowly.</p>
<p>I was involved in some internet buzz-creation about two years ago and had a fairly unique situation that let me see it unfold. My paying work was in a niche Quaker bookstore and its related websites; in the evenings I wrote a prominent Quaker blog. A great pamphlet was published, one that was pretty sure to fall into obscurity, but which I loved and which was only available through our bookstore. I posted about it on my blog but there were no immediate orders. A few weeks later another blogger was writing about a related issue and I commented about how this pamphlet addressed it in a fresh way, providing a link to my post. A few days later the blogger ordered it and within a few weeks he blogged about it. He brought it to a visioning committee he was involved with and I was able to see each committee-member order it in turn. Two months later they decided that every Quaker meeting in their region should get two copies and a mass order went out.</p>
<p>Did I create the buzz? Yes, but it wasn&#8217;t a publicity campaign. I genuinely liked the pamphlet and talked it up on my personal blog. There would have been only one sale if the pamphlet hadn&#8217;t been any good. I was coming to the conversation as a fellow customer that likes this niche so much that I had figured out a way to be gainfully employed in it. I wouldn&#8217;t be able to sell some randomly-selected book that way (or I might be able to see one once before my audience saw I was selling-out!).</p>
<p>I feel that I should say that I was dismissed from this job a few weeks ago. Although I was constantly busy, my new supervisor kept asking me what I did with my time; I think he was suspicious of my after-hours blogging (he&#8217;s the kind who can barely navigate email). I think my most important work is relational and I think its more important to empower those I worked with than to produce the most perfect product. I&#8217;m not selling something so much as creating an audience for sales. I wonder if these paradigm differences are part of the reason I&#8217;m sitting in my pajamas on a Monday afternoon surfing blogs and Craigslist postings&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Koskela</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/are-the-4ps-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-310231</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Koskela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brendon, this is interesting to me. I&#039;m not hugely &quot;up&quot; on what&#039;s going on in the business world, so your blog is one that keeps me from being totally in the dark. This post is spurring some thoughts about connections with the church, away from the old &quot;attractional&quot; model (&quot;push&quot; in the sense that you conform to my way in my building at my time and buy my product) and toward a missional model (&quot;pull&quot; in the sense that I go to you, build a relationship, and let your needs guide how we speak and live Christ.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Might be a post of my own brewing...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendon, this is interesting to me. I&#8217;m not hugely &#8220;up&#8221; on what&#8217;s going on in the business world, so your blog is one that keeps me from being totally in the dark. This post is spurring some thoughts about connections with the church, away from the old &#8220;attractional&#8221; model (&#8221;push&#8221; in the sense that you conform to my way in my building at my time and buy my product) and toward a missional model (&#8221;pull&#8221; in the sense that I go to you, build a relationship, and let your needs guide how we speak and live Christ.)</p>
<p>Might be a post of my own brewing&#8230;</p>
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