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	<title>Comments on: Cold Stone Creamery Franchise:  Hell Hath no Fury Like a Franchisee Scorned</title>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MBA students read this blog?  My god.  I thought I stopped damaging our institutions of higher learning when I quit teaching college.
I would be interested in reading their paper.  They can send it to me at info[at]ideafarm.net.  I promise I won&#039;t post it for paid download at lazycollegestudents.com.
College students will admire my ability to turn out quick posts by the next morning.  
How&#039;s this for fast:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.franchisepick.com/cold-stone-creamery-franchise-owners-caught-between-a-cold-stone-and-a-hard-place/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cold Stone Creamery Franchise Owners Caught Between a Cold Stone and a Hard Place&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBA students read this blog?  My god.  I thought I stopped damaging our institutions of higher learning when I quit teaching college.<br />
I would be interested in reading their paper.  They can send it to me at info[at]ideafarm.net.  I promise I won&#8217;t post it for paid download at lazycollegestudents.com.<br />
College students will admire my ability to turn out quick posts by the next morning.<br />
How&#8217;s this for fast:  <a href="http://www.franchisepick.com/cold-stone-creamery-franchise-owners-caught-between-a-cold-stone-and-a-hard-place/" rel="nofollow">Cold Stone Creamery Franchise Owners Caught Between a Cold Stone and a Hard Place</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cecil Rolle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cecil Rolle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

I appreciate you blogging regarding my comment. It was brought to my attention Sunday evening by a group of MBA students at an Arizona university who set out to analyze Cold Stone as &quot;a company whose business model had to do with making money off of ice cream, however as [they] looked deeper it seems that it has been at the expense of the franchisees.&quot; An intuitive analysis may be persuasive in demonstrating that you very well may have been wrongly characterized, but I cannot imagine that you and Cold Stone enjoy the same juxtaposition; to wit:

First, a recent review of Cold Stone&#039;s website indicated that the company had 392 of its approximate 1,400 stores for sale (that&#039;s a whopping 28% of its total franchises). Why? Without knowing more, one can easily construct an argument that these are franchisees lined up to cash in on the appreciated assets of a hot brand, right?

Let&#039;s look further.

Second, a recent review of bizbuysell.com and other sites revealed several Cold Stone stores with asking prices of less than $100,000 and one as low as $29,000. There is even a listing for a location that was opened in 2006 where Cold Stone corporate is attempting to sell a store that was apparently closed by the local taxing authority just last Thursday when the owner was unable to pay his taxes (see http://www.metrowestfyi.com/story_display.php?sid=9113 ). The price tag: $99,000. How profitable do you think that store is?

It cost me nearly $400,000 to start my campus location. If you invest $400,000 to develop a new Cold Stone and within a relatively short period, you are offering to sell it for $100,000, I doubt you will consider &quot;Cold Stone’s franchise opportunities are about as solid as they come&quot; as they claim on their website. If an investor is selling an asset for 25% of its cost within the time period of the Colorado franchisee, do you think there&#039;s any profit to be found in that investment? I think he was just a hardworking man trying to do something positive for his family and his community and like so many other Cold Stone franchisees, ran out of personal assets to continue propping up his unprofitable business.

Third, in late 2007, Cold Stone claimed to have &quot;more than 1,400 stores&quot; open. As of this month, according to their website, they have &quot;nearly 1,400 stores&quot; open. If that is true, it would appear that during the past six months or so, Cold Stone has been closing more stores than it has opened. That is frightening for a company that has for years claimed to be the fastest growing super premium ice cream franchise in the nation. How can a franchisor thrive if its franchisees are failing in large numbers?

You have my email address. To the extent that you would like proof that you are likely the only victim among the two, email me. I will be happy to provide you with what I feel will be a persuasive argument in my favor.

Take care and btw, I enjoy your work.

Cecil Rolle
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>I appreciate you blogging regarding my comment. It was brought to my attention Sunday evening by a group of MBA students at an Arizona university who set out to analyze Cold Stone as &#8220;a company whose business model had to do with making money off of ice cream, however as [they] looked deeper it seems that it has been at the expense of the franchisees.&#8221; An intuitive analysis may be persuasive in demonstrating that you very well may have been wrongly characterized, but I cannot imagine that you and Cold Stone enjoy the same juxtaposition; to wit:</p>
<p>First, a recent review of Cold Stone&#8217;s website indicated that the company had 392 of its approximate 1,400 stores for sale (that&#8217;s a whopping 28% of its total franchises). Why? Without knowing more, one can easily construct an argument that these are franchisees lined up to cash in on the appreciated assets of a hot brand, right?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look further.</p>
<p>Second, a recent review of bizbuysell.com and other sites revealed several Cold Stone stores with asking prices of less than $100,000 and one as low as $29,000. There is even a listing for a location that was opened in 2006 where Cold Stone corporate is attempting to sell a store that was apparently closed by the local taxing authority just last Thursday when the owner was unable to pay his taxes (see <a href="http://www.metrowestfyi.com/story_display.php?sid=9113" rel="nofollow">http://www.metrowestfyi.com/story_display.php?sid=9113</a> ). The price tag: $99,000. How profitable do you think that store is?</p>
<p>It cost me nearly $400,000 to start my campus location. If you invest $400,000 to develop a new Cold Stone and within a relatively short period, you are offering to sell it for $100,000, I doubt you will consider &#8220;Cold Stone’s franchise opportunities are about as solid as they come&#8221; as they claim on their website. If an investor is selling an asset for 25% of its cost within the time period of the Colorado franchisee, do you think there&#8217;s any profit to be found in that investment? I think he was just a hardworking man trying to do something positive for his family and his community and like so many other Cold Stone franchisees, ran out of personal assets to continue propping up his unprofitable business.</p>
<p>Third, in late 2007, Cold Stone claimed to have &#8220;more than 1,400 stores&#8221; open. As of this month, according to their website, they have &#8220;nearly 1,400 stores&#8221; open. If that is true, it would appear that during the past six months or so, Cold Stone has been closing more stores than it has opened. That is frightening for a company that has for years claimed to be the fastest growing super premium ice cream franchise in the nation. How can a franchisor thrive if its franchisees are failing in large numbers?</p>
<p>You have my email address. To the extent that you would like proof that you are likely the only victim among the two, email me. I will be happy to provide you with what I feel will be a persuasive argument in my favor.</p>
<p>Take care and btw, I enjoy your work.</p>
<p>Cecil Rolle<br />
<a href="mailto:cecilrolle@aol.com">cecilrolle@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the manager of an existing Cold Stone franchise store, I find it difficult to believe an owner who would accredit such a fiasco as a three-store failure to vendor costs. I&#039;d be interested to know this franchisee&#039;s prior experience and the open dates of all three stores. But given the million-dollar performance he specified it seems realistic to presume a combination of more likely suspects (product loss, high labor, poor management) may have played a part. My feeling is that this owner should have started with one well-managed store (I assume this was not the case) before trying his hand at three. Franchising is not a get-rich-quick scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the manager of an existing Cold Stone franchise store, I find it difficult to believe an owner who would accredit such a fiasco as a three-store failure to vendor costs. I&#8217;d be interested to know this franchisee&#8217;s prior experience and the open dates of all three stores. But given the million-dollar performance he specified it seems realistic to presume a combination of more likely suspects (product loss, high labor, poor management) may have played a part. My feeling is that this owner should have started with one well-managed store (I assume this was not the case) before trying his hand at three. Franchising is not a get-rich-quick scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Stone Creamery: The Dissed&#8217;n Franchised &#124; Franchisee Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/cold-stone-creamery-franchise-hell-hath-no-fury-like-a-franchisee-scorned/comment-page-1/#comment-300181</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Stone Creamery: The Dissed&#8217;n Franchised &#124; Franchisee Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] franchise owners are taking their grievances online; in this case a Cold Stone Creamery franchisee.  (FranchisePick.Com) In franchising, the Internet has changed everything. It used to be that angry franchise owners just [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] franchise owners are taking their grievances online; in this case a Cold Stone Creamery franchisee.  (FranchisePick.Com) In franchising, the Internet has changed everything. It used to be that angry franchise owners just [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am thinking about buying a local cold stone that is in financial trouble. i will take your comments into consideration. i need to do some more research before my decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am thinking about buying a local cold stone that is in financial trouble. i will take your comments into consideration. i need to do some more research before my decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacked! Oh no, we must hide from the hordes of &quot;guest&quot; posting.

I blogged about CS over at franchise-chat, must of have been 3 years ago.

I was whacking some VP shill - I pointed out that their income statement was largely receivables from their franchisees.

Not good when the help cannot pay and they stick you with a &quot;promissory note&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attacked! Oh no, we must hide from the hordes of &#8220;guest&#8221; posting.</p>
<p>I blogged about CS over at franchise-chat, must of have been 3 years ago.</p>
<p>I was whacking some VP shill &#8211; I pointed out that their income statement was largely receivables from their franchisees.</p>
<p>Not good when the help cannot pay and they stick you with a &#8220;promissory note&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Kahala made that decision back when I was blogging on the wisdom of one of my favorite bad ideas:  Cereality, the all-cereal restaurant.  The article with Doug Ducey of Cold Stone Creamery (and Cereality) parent Kahala Cold Stone saying that they were going to kick off their growth by closing 7 stores was a franchise classic.  In the same article, he simultaneously stated that the first 50 stores of a new concept are a crapshoot AND that their first 50 were going to be franchised was a little more revealing than even Stone Cold Doug Ducey intended.

Michael, I believe we&#039;ve both been personally attacked online this weekend.  Fortunately for me, my reputation was sullied long ago.  Intentionally, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Kahala made that decision back when I was blogging on the wisdom of one of my favorite bad ideas:  Cereality, the all-cereal restaurant.  The article with Doug Ducey of Cold Stone Creamery (and Cereality) parent Kahala Cold Stone saying that they were going to kick off their growth by closing 7 stores was a franchise classic.  In the same article, he simultaneously stated that the first 50 stores of a new concept are a crapshoot AND that their first 50 were going to be franchised was a little more revealing than even Stone Cold Doug Ducey intended.</p>
<p>Michael, I believe we&#8217;ve both been personally attacked online this weekend.  Fortunately for me, my reputation was sullied long ago.  Intentionally, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an interesting development that one post can resonate so much and effect recruiting.

Be interesting to see the franchisor&#039;s response.

Betcha that they decide not to hire any more Irish Marketing guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interesting development that one post can resonate so much and effect recruiting.</p>
<p>Be interesting to see the franchisor&#8217;s response.</p>
<p>Betcha that they decide not to hire any more Irish Marketing guys!</p>
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