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	<title>Comments on: CURVES INTERNATIONAL: You Failed? Pay Up!</title>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/curves-international-you-failed-pay-up/comment-page-1/#comment-305186</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is curves legal charging $5000. transfer fee for new owner ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is curves legal charging $5000. transfer fee for new owner ?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/curves-international-you-failed-pay-up/comment-page-1/#comment-305182</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They also tell you when you buy a resale club that the legal team goes over every contract to make sure both seller and buyer are getting a good deal. That is the biggest bunch of BS I have ever heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also tell you when you buy a resale club that the legal team goes over every contract to make sure both seller and buyer are getting a good deal. That is the biggest bunch of BS I have ever heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/curves-international-you-failed-pay-up/comment-page-/#comment-305181</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are going through this same thing. I sent an email to curves asking for help and what to do since we couldn&#039;t stay open. Have not heard anything from them. I did everything the &quot;Curves&quot; way as well. What a mistake that has proven to be. While other Curves around me are doing whatever they want bad mouthing curves every chance they get, they are still open and I have been forced out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are going through this same thing. I sent an email to curves asking for help and what to do since we couldn&#8217;t stay open. Have not heard anything from them. I did everything the &#8220;Curves&#8221; way as well. What a mistake that has proven to be. While other Curves around me are doing whatever they want bad mouthing curves every chance they get, they are still open and I have been forced out.</p>
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		<title>By: FedUp</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/curves-international-you-failed-pay-up/comment-page-1/#comment-304666</link>
		<dc:creator>FedUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I did not buy a resale I have often asked this question myself.  Specifically, I believe what you are asking is can Curves be sued for fraud. I can think of many examples where this maybe possible and you are really going to have to get an attorney to answer those questions.

The area in which I personally believe that Curves can be held accountable is in the membership numbers.  Remember I am not a lawyer so take my opinion with a grain of salt.  Owners are required to send in their reports to Curves, which provides financial and statistical data.  This data includes membership numbers can revenue.  

Therefore, when a sale of a club is made Curves has the opportunity to do a quick “sanity check” on the price of the club, such as anything over a 3.5 multiple of the revenue would raise a red flag to them.  With this information, Curves can go back to the prospective buyer for verification of the membership and revenue numbers to ensure the correct information is given to that buyer.  However, Curves would not be responsible to prevent the purchase of the club at a price.  But, I would thing they should bring the facts that they contain to the buyers attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I did not buy a resale I have often asked this question myself.  Specifically, I believe what you are asking is can Curves be sued for fraud. I can think of many examples where this maybe possible and you are really going to have to get an attorney to answer those questions.</p>
<p>The area in which I personally believe that Curves can be held accountable is in the membership numbers.  Remember I am not a lawyer so take my opinion with a grain of salt.  Owners are required to send in their reports to Curves, which provides financial and statistical data.  This data includes membership numbers can revenue.  </p>
<p>Therefore, when a sale of a club is made Curves has the opportunity to do a quick “sanity check” on the price of the club, such as anything over a 3.5 multiple of the revenue would raise a red flag to them.  With this information, Curves can go back to the prospective buyer for verification of the membership and revenue numbers to ensure the correct information is given to that buyer.  However, Curves would not be responsible to prevent the purchase of the club at a price.  But, I would thing they should bring the facts that they contain to the buyers attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed-Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed-Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curves Owner 2,

Though I did not buy a resale I have often asked this question myself.  Specifically, I believe what you are asking is can Curves be sued for fraud. I can think of many examples where this maybe possible and you are really going to have to get an attorney to answer those questions.

The area in which I personally believe that Curves can be held accountable is in the membership numbers.  Remember I am not a lawyer so take my opinion with a grain of salt.  Owners are required to send in their reports to Curves, which provides financial and statistical data.  This data includes membership numbers can revenue.  

Therefore, when a sale of a club is made Curves has the opportunity to do a quick “sanity check” on the price of the club, such as anything over a 3.5 multiple of the revenue would raise a red flag to them.  With this information, Curves can go back to the prospective buyer for verification of the membership and revenue numbers to ensure the correct information is given to that buyer.  However, Curves would not be responsible to prevent the purchase of the club at a price.  But, I would thing they should bring the facts that they contain to the buyers attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curves Owner 2,</p>
<p>Though I did not buy a resale I have often asked this question myself.  Specifically, I believe what you are asking is can Curves be sued for fraud. I can think of many examples where this maybe possible and you are really going to have to get an attorney to answer those questions.</p>
<p>The area in which I personally believe that Curves can be held accountable is in the membership numbers.  Remember I am not a lawyer so take my opinion with a grain of salt.  Owners are required to send in their reports to Curves, which provides financial and statistical data.  This data includes membership numbers can revenue.  </p>
<p>Therefore, when a sale of a club is made Curves has the opportunity to do a quick “sanity check” on the price of the club, such as anything over a 3.5 multiple of the revenue would raise a red flag to them.  With this information, Curves can go back to the prospective buyer for verification of the membership and revenue numbers to ensure the correct information is given to that buyer.  However, Curves would not be responsible to prevent the purchase of the club at a price.  But, I would thing they should bring the facts that they contain to the buyers attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed-Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed-Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I did not buy a resale I have often asked this question myself.  Specifically, I believe what you are asking is can Curves be sued for fraud. I can think of many examples where this maybe possible and you are really going to have to get an attorney to answer those questions.

The area in which I personally believe that Curves can be held accountable is in the membership numbers.  Remember I am not a lawyer so take my opinion with a grain of salt.  Owners are required to send in their reports to Curves, which provides financial and statistical data.  This data includes membership numbers can revenue.  

Therefore, when a sale of a club is made Curves has the opportunity to do a quick “sanity check” on the price of the club, such as anything over a 3.5 multiple of the revenue would raise a red flag to them.  With this information, Curves can go back to the prospective buyer for verification of the membership and revenue numbers to ensure the correct information is given to that buyer.  However, Curves would not be responsible to prevent the purchase of the club at a price.  But, I would thing they should bring the facts that they contain to the buyers attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I did not buy a resale I have often asked this question myself.  Specifically, I believe what you are asking is can Curves be sued for fraud. I can think of many examples where this maybe possible and you are really going to have to get an attorney to answer those questions.</p>
<p>The area in which I personally believe that Curves can be held accountable is in the membership numbers.  Remember I am not a lawyer so take my opinion with a grain of salt.  Owners are required to send in their reports to Curves, which provides financial and statistical data.  This data includes membership numbers can revenue.  </p>
<p>Therefore, when a sale of a club is made Curves has the opportunity to do a quick “sanity check” on the price of the club, such as anything over a 3.5 multiple of the revenue would raise a red flag to them.  With this information, Curves can go back to the prospective buyer for verification of the membership and revenue numbers to ensure the correct information is given to that buyer.  However, Curves would not be responsible to prevent the purchase of the club at a price.  But, I would thing they should bring the facts that they contain to the buyers attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Curves Owner 2</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/curves-international-you-failed-pay-up/comment-page-1/#comment-304647</link>
		<dc:creator>Curves Owner 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can Curves International be held responsible for knowing that franchisees were cheating new franchisees by asking more for the units than they were worth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Curves International be held responsible for knowing that franchisees were cheating new franchisees by asking more for the units than they were worth?</p>
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		<title>By: Wipedout</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/curves-international-you-failed-pay-up/comment-page-1/#comment-304637</link>
		<dc:creator>Wipedout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charging franchisees for closing their clubs is akin to pulling gold fillings from a corpse&#039;s mouth. Gary Heavin is literally a GRAVE-ROBBER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charging franchisees for closing their clubs is akin to pulling gold fillings from a corpse&#8217;s mouth. Gary Heavin is literally a GRAVE-ROBBER.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen H</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/curves-international-you-failed-pay-up/comment-page-1/#comment-304544</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Heavins and staff all come across as Christians with family values and tell us we are of thier family now. Is this how you treat a family member who is in trouble?  When times get rough, you kick us when we are down. we are hanging on by threads and instead of helping to keep us going,you want to make it worse by demanding money from a club that hasn&#039;t a pot to p--- in or a window to throw it out. Cold, that is so cold. CI prides themselves as being a close knit group,and ready to help their franchisees, huh, I dont think so. With all the clubs still goin and other projects Heavin and wife are into, they should offer relief for a few months or so to thier tiring clubs to help them pick themselves up, not step  on them when they are down.  God has blessed you Mr. Heavin, with all you have, spread that blessing, God dont like ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Heavins and staff all come across as Christians with family values and tell us we are of thier family now. Is this how you treat a family member who is in trouble?  When times get rough, you kick us when we are down. we are hanging on by threads and instead of helping to keep us going,you want to make it worse by demanding money from a club that hasn&#8217;t a pot to p&#8212; in or a window to throw it out. Cold, that is so cold. CI prides themselves as being a close knit group,and ready to help their franchisees, huh, I dont think so. With all the clubs still goin and other projects Heavin and wife are into, they should offer relief for a few months or so to thier tiring clubs to help them pick themselves up, not step  on them when they are down.  God has blessed you Mr. Heavin, with all you have, spread that blessing, God dont like ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter and Twisted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitter and Twisted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one stage, we owned outright - 3 Curves franchises and our home. 3 years and lots of heartache later, we now have 1 Curves franchise that no one wants, 2 abandoned franchises we are being sued over, and live in a small rental property.  

We DID evevrything the Curves way.  Every single step of the way.  We paid, and we still continue to pay.  We are firm believers in Karma, and Gary Heavin, you and your cronies will rot in hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one stage, we owned outright &#8211; 3 Curves franchises and our home. 3 years and lots of heartache later, we now have 1 Curves franchise that no one wants, 2 abandoned franchises we are being sued over, and live in a small rental property.  </p>
<p>We DID evevrything the Curves way.  Every single step of the way.  We paid, and we still continue to pay.  We are firm believers in Karma, and Gary Heavin, you and your cronies will rot in hell.</p>
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