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		<title>By: Alexis Menzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexis Menzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tipler&#039;s argument against ETI is rock-solid. The burden of proof is always on the shoulders of the believers. The main body of evolutionists also agree with Tipler.
In short, SETI/exobiology/whatever-you-wanna-call-it is no more than one of Carl Sagan&#039;s masturbatory fantasies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tipler&#8217;s argument against ETI is rock-solid. The burden of proof is always on the shoulders of the believers. The main body of evolutionists also agree with Tipler.<br />
In short, SETI/exobiology/whatever-you-wanna-call-it is no more than one of Carl Sagan&#8217;s masturbatory fantasies!</p>
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		<title>By: island</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/extraterrestrial-beings-do-not-exist-191/comment-page-1/#comment-65357</link>
		<dc:creator>island</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting development.  John Wheeler&#039;s strong cosmological interpretation of the anthropic principle seems to have been given a big boost:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/315/5814/966

The paper was mentioned in an article by Robert Lanza, a stem cell researcher, who, like me, has come out advocating a biocentric approach to the fine-tuning problem, gravity, and the theory of everything, for reasons that are not clear:

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20070308005610&amp;newsLang=en

Robert Lanza
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lanza

The nuts on the web are making every ill-informed and stereotypically false statement possible about this rift in their meaningless worldview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting development.  John Wheeler&#8217;s strong cosmological interpretation of the anthropic principle seems to have been given a big boost:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/315/5814/966" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/315/5814/966</a></p>
<p>The paper was mentioned in an article by Robert Lanza, a stem cell researcher, who, like me, has come out advocating a biocentric approach to the fine-tuning problem, gravity, and the theory of everything, for reasons that are not clear:</p>
<p><a href="http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20070308005610&amp;newsLang=en" rel="nofollow">http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20070308005610&amp;newsLang=en</a></p>
<p>Robert Lanza<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lanza" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lanza</a></p>
<p>The nuts on the web are making every ill-informed and stereotypically false statement possible about this rift in their meaningless worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I agree.  From what I know of Tipler, he had a strong political agenda.  I read somewhere that Tipler reported the SETI program, strongly endorsed by Sagan, et al, to William Proxmire&#039;s Golden Fleece committee for wasting the taxpayers money.

Proxmire awarded the SETI program with the Golden Fleece, and that resulted in a funding cut for about a year, after which it was re-instated.

I forget what the reason was, but Proxmire didn&#039;t object the following year when it came time to renew SETI&#039;s funding.

Anyway, Tipler did seem to have a chip on his shoulder...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I agree.  From what I know of Tipler, he had a strong political agenda.  I read somewhere that Tipler reported the SETI program, strongly endorsed by Sagan, et al, to William Proxmire&#8217;s Golden Fleece committee for wasting the taxpayers money.</p>
<p>Proxmire awarded the SETI program with the Golden Fleece, and that resulted in a funding cut for about a year, after which it was re-instated.</p>
<p>I forget what the reason was, but Proxmire didn&#8217;t object the following year when it came time to renew SETI&#8217;s funding.</p>
<p>Anyway, Tipler did seem to have a chip on his shoulder&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: island</title>
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		<dc:creator>island</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Tipler doesn&#039;t account for the golilocks enigma, which is an extremely important feature of the anthropic physics.

Case in point:
Paul Davies is a major player in the Seti Search.  Note the contradiction.

Another case in point:
Even Richard Dawkins knows what the goldilocks zone is.  Note the contradiction.

Frank Tipler acts like he doesn&#039;t know the most important feature of the physics that he and John Barrow researched.

A lot of his stuff seems to be motivated by something other than science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Tipler doesn&#8217;t account for the golilocks enigma, which is an extremely important feature of the anthropic physics.</p>
<p>Case in point:<br />
Paul Davies is a major player in the Seti Search.  Note the contradiction.</p>
<p>Another case in point:<br />
Even Richard Dawkins knows what the goldilocks zone is.  Note the contradiction.</p>
<p>Frank Tipler acts like he doesn&#8217;t know the most important feature of the physics that he and John Barrow researched.</p>
<p>A lot of his stuff seems to be motivated by something other than science.</p>
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