Fake moneybookers scam ?
May 10, 2008 by moneypenny
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This is what arrived in my mail box today. I went on-line because I thought it was from someone who was paying me today, and logged on. No cash! So sooner or later everyone gets scamed, as Google tells you! The site is identical. Moneybookers should have a secure lock image like yahoo does. Anyone else here had this message? Moneypenny
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Thank you dear….
I think this maybe another scan found on Craigslist
ello!
Thanks you for your interest in my Tahoe. It is in great condition inside, outside and
mechanically, the interior of the car is free of cracks, rips, tears or any other damage,
never involved in any accidents, clear title, 22,000 miles on it. Once my daughter died,
I’ve moved from the US. The truck is still registered there. The price for the vehicle is
$15,000, including the shipping and insurance charges. All documents and the notarized
bill of sale will be provided along with the car. The transaction will be made under an
escrow company called Moneybookers. Please come back if you are still interested.
Thank you!
Kathy
P.S. Here is the link with some pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/s43j4s/2007ChevroletTahoeLTZ4×4FullyLoaded
Today is Nov 15th 2008. Two days ago I saw a bike on craigslist for a great price. The following are the emails that pursued….
“My name is Tony and I am interested in your bike. If you still have the bike give me a call so I can check it out. I might be able to take it off your hands. My number is (xxx) xxx-xxxx, it is a xxxx number, but I am here in xxxx.”
“Hi,There are 10610 miles on it, the bike is still available, it’s in perfect condition,never been damaged , and the price I`m selling it for is $3100, which is including all shippings charges.
I used to live in Phoenix but I`m currently working in the UK (Manchester) and I`ll be moving here permanently within the next few months and although I love it, the bike is one of the things I`m not taking with me.I`m using a third party company called MoneyBookers LTD. to sell this bike, I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. They are supervising the entire sale process from payment, shipping with a 14-day inspection period included, returns (if needed) and refunding.
If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward.I will be waiting your email.Thanks.”
“Hey Bruce,Wow! The UK huh….big move. Anyways, it sounds good so far, but you stated the price is including all shipping charges and I live here next to Phoenix. What would be the price without the shipping charges since the bike does not have to be shipped? If the price is right and the bike is in good shape then let’s move on. One more thing, I would like to see the bike before purchasing and at least hear it running. Is that possible?”
« Hi again, The bike is stored in Las Cruces (at MoneyBookers storage facility). Usually they deliver the product with a 14-day return policy right after the payment is confirmed, for inspection and pick up prior to delivery you have to schedule an appointment, and it could take up to 25 days until you have it which is more than I`m willing to wait.
If you want to purchase it, let me explain you how MoneyBookers works and how we can proceed:
To start the official transaction, I need your full name and shipping address.
As soon as I receive your info, I will forward it to MoneyBookers, they start the transaction and will notify you with all the instructions (payment, shipping, my account status etc.). One of their agents will be assigned to receive and handle the payment. You have to make the payment using the exact details they will provide you with and when the payment is complete, you have to send them the transfers information, they verify it and will will take care of the delivery. You will have a 14-day return policy, so you will have the chance to test and inspect the bike and decide either you keep it or not. If you decide to keep it, they have the power of attorney so they will transfer the title into your name and release me the funds, if not they will be responsible for the return shipping and you will have a complete refund within 3 days.Anyway, they will explain you detailed the entire process.I am waiting your email. Thanks. »
Thank you for everyone who gave their story and other info that prevented me from falling prey to this scam.
I’m currently trying to get additional info from a woman in UK advertising a 2006 Nissan Xterra for $5500. Name of seller is Kristi Loffer, kristiloffer@yahoo.com. Comments of vehicle condition and circumstances forcing the sale are very similar to others posted here. Everything looked legit until I saw she wants me to send the money through Western Union, not a Moneybookers account.
Same is true with me. I came across with the BMW 5X ad in local newspaer ( atlanta Journal classified used car ). Actually I have contacted 2 people , but thankGod, they did not reply me back for my further questions on VIN # and other details.
Here are those 2 replies from those scammers I.from: Suzanne Wellin
Hi there,
Thank you for your inquiry regarding my car. If you are interested you should know that it has never been wrecked or damaged,the car is in excelent condition. All the manuals, clear title and the original documentation come along with the car. The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping and insurance fees will be $4,000.00 USD. I am right now located in Glasgow, Scotland with my work for some time but we can work this out since the car is located in USA at Moneybookers Company!
I would like to use aa third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. Moneybookers offers a third party service for their premium members only. As a Moneybookers premium member I have applied for this service and I’m willing to pay for their fee if you agree using their service. If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, and I will open a case at Moneybookers and they will contact you with all the information about our deal(they will take care of the shipping/payment).
Just let me know and I’ll get back to you with further details about the transaction.
Regards,
Suzanne
II.from: Fred Strickland
Hi there,
If you are interested in my car you should know that the car is as good as new, it has never been wrecked or damaged, the car is in excelent condition, it has a clear title. The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping and insurance fees will be $3,600.00 USD. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in USA at Moneybookers company and I live in Scotland. I know the price is cheaper then normal on the market but I want to sell the car faster then usually and I assume that a lower price will be a good solution. I would like to use Moneybookers a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address and I will open a case at Moneybookers and they will contact you with all the information about our deal.
Thank you,
Fred
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I, too, am glad I checked here as I was about to purchase a guitar from a guy saying he’s in London, the guitar’s in Sydney etc etc… What tipped me off was checking the address of the so-called agent:
Thomas Benks
180 Brockley Road
London
SE4 2RR
United Kingdom
…which turned out to be a used car dealership! And what’s more, the above agent address was used in another scam, see http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=319171
So I now know that it is definitely not to be trusted. Also the seller’s name seemed dubious: Melvin Ramadan. Sounded made up or something. I will report this to http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx and gumtree.com.au (where the ad is placed) and moneybookers in the hope that no one else gets actually scammed.
Thanks to all for sharing–I was corresponding with one of these shysters about an Audi A4 listed on mlive.com, a site of all michigan classifies. I wrote back and told him that I would be using the moneybook site directly and setting up an escrow payment–haven’t heard from him, and don’t think I will.
thanks so much for the info regarding the car scams. i too had a guy from Scotland saying the same stuff…please. i found the car on sellmycar.com
thanks again guys.
Dear Sire.
There is problem with my account, I have set 11,50e in order to sifte into account of skype. When I am trying to move te money from monebooker to skype, it ask everytime the password fot the e-mil eddere above. The have been some mistake and the real addres to my e -mai is in valid: pulkkinenrekki@yahoo.com.
Will you infor me about the cace becourse the money in now locked in your bank.
I am going through the same thing right now, although fortunately I came here first and didn’t deliver any money. My e-mail is word for word like the one listed above except they are in London instead of Scotland. Thank you for all the information.
Guess these guys are hard at work. I am looking for a specific motorcycle and signed up for a service that provides daily listings (if any) alerting me a new listing came out. I receive a listing that was not for my specific model but the price was attractive so I replied and received the same message I read above about the bike being stored in Austin and everythng was being handled through Moneybookers. First I checked Moneybookers and I did not see any place where you could purchase a vehicle through them… why do they take things into inventory if you can’t purchase them from their site? — RED FLAG #1. I asked several questions on different e-mails including confirmation for an appointment to see the bike in Austin and the contact information for Moneybookers. I received the same e-mail I aleady had received. This made me wary — RED FLAG #2. I decided not to purchase the bike as I could not see it unless I sent money. Here is the ad so hopefully others won’t fall for it.
Clean 2001 BMW R-Series R1100S with ABS $3,100
Details: 12,400 miles, Sale By Owner Location: Dallas
Listed on: Local.com Classifieds, Jan 13
Summary Used 2001 BMW R-series 12,400 miles
Price $3,100
Location Dallas (South Boulevard-Park Row), TX
For sale by For Sale by Private Party
Source ldwiknathan on Local.com Classifieds, 1 day ago
2001 BMW R-Series- R1100S – Bike is in basically perfect condition, there are 12400 miles on it.
Tires have 2,000 miles on them(Michelin).
Extra’s are : ABS
Carbon fibre hugger(inner fender)
Laminar lip
Tank Pad
Otherwise the bike is all stock – Oil and filter changed every 2,500 miles – BMW Synthetic
Bike runs perfect
This bike has never been dropped or laid down in any way
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Posted by ldwiknathan
Just received another fraudulent email….
Hi,
the ATV is in great condition, has been properly maintained and has never been flipped or wrecked. It has a clear title and the price I`m selling it for is $3000, which is including all charges.
I used to live in Ferndale but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and I`ll be moving here permanently within the next few months and I can`t afford the luxury of taking the ATV with me so I decided to let it go.
I`m using a third party company called MoneyBookers LTD. to sell this bike, I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. They are supervising the entire sale process from payment, shipping with a 14-day inspection period, returns (if needed) and refunding.
If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward.
I will be waiting your email.
Thanks
I was just emailed this morning and was thinking it was too good to be true, but when I asked to see the car, it all of a sudden was somewhere else, thats when I decided to do some research before I sent any money, since I have not sent any money yet I would like to help catch them who should I contact? Here is the email I just received…. from diana.weller@hotmail.com
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,860.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Provo, UT at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Diana
I just got 2 scams in a row not falling for any of them I’ll post the examples so people can identify the scam:
Hello,
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Thank you for your interest about my car. Sorry for the delayed response, but I’m in Glasgow (Scotland) right now and I have been very busy. The car is registered and located in United Stat
VIN#WBAEK13466CN76202
The car is like new, in perfect conditions, accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. A genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
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hello, the car is in Bismark, ND and will be shipped from here on my expenses inside US
As i told you in my last email we will use eBay Safe Pay to manage the payment because it’s the safest way for both of us .eBay Safe Pay is responsible to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements, both parties must submit proof of payment/delivery presented in a legal form (payment/delivery receipt) by the registered payment/delivery service used.You will have to send payment by a bank transfer to eBay ($ 10,900).They will hold the funds until you receive the vehicle and also test it !!!
As soon as you’ll complete the payment ,the shipping will start using DAS Auto Shippers.
It will take no more then 7 days to arrive at your home address.( I’ll pay the shipping). I offer 10 days for inspection,during this time,if the vehicle isn’t like i described you will get all the founds you sent to eBay.
Shipping back to my location will be paid by me,again.
I believe this guy is trying to scam me. He posted a travel trailer on craigslist in cnj then says he lives in Chicago. See the below email. Can you verify whether this is a legit offer. Is Moneybrokers handling the sales and shipping of this trailer.
Roy
From: Alex Murray
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 5:51 PM
To: rwilde4@cox.net
Subject: Re: 2002 Coleman Bayside
Size: 10 KB
Hello
Because i am not in town i have some business to make and i need to sell quick the camper, i let the camper at moneybooker and they will take care about the shipping.
I attached you some photos.
If you want to purchase it, let me explain you how MoneyBookers works and how we can proceed:
To start the official transaction, I need your full name and shipping address.
As soon as I receive your info, I will forward it to MoneyBookers, they start the transaction and will notify you with all the instructions (payment, shipping, my account status etc.) One of their agents will be assigned to receive and handle the payment. You have to make the payment to the bank account they will provide you with and when the payment is complete, you have to send them the transfers information, they verify it and will take care of the delivery. You will have a 14-day return policy, so you will have the chance to inspect the camper and decide either you keep it or not. If you decide to keep it, they will release me the funds, if not they will be responsible for the return shipping and you will have a complete refund within 3 days.
Anyway, they will explain you detailed the entire process.
I am waiting your email.
Thanks
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:57 PM, wrote:
Alex,
I would certainly would want to inspect it prior to purchasing. Can you send me some pictures so I can get a better understanding of the condition. I have family outside of Chicago so maybe I can arrange something.
/r
Roy
—- Alex Murray wrote:
> Hi,
> The camper is available and is fully functional and the price I`m
> selling it for is $5000, which is including all shippings charges.
> I live in Chicago,IL . I`m using MoneyBookers services so I can sell
> this camper without difficulty. They will take care of the delivery
> with a 14-day return policy so you will have the chance to inspect it
> before final decision.
> If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how
> MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward.
> I am waiting your email.
> Thanks.
>
> On 2/1/09, rwilde4@cox.net wrote:
> >
> > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY — AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> > ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> > ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
> >
> > My bust, I see its central NJ. Not too far. I’m down in Virginia and
> > about to go on a business trip. But perhaps we can set up something for
> > next weekend?
> >
> > R
> > —- rwilde4@cox.net wrote:
> > > Where are you located?
> > >
> > > R
> >
> >
> >
> > ——————————————————————
> > this message was remailed to you via: sale-1013828401@craigslist.org
wow did you guys ever save me from a world of hurt i am still talking to the scammers they had a 2007 honda rhino with snow plow and tracks for snow i looked up the cost and it was over 20k they are selling it for 3600.00 i could not believe my luck when they asked for my name and address they want me to wait till someone from moneybookers contacts me i am so glad i found you guys what do you want me to do to catch these guys since i am still in negotiations?
My husband and I are going through bankruptcy (at only 23/27, we were young and stupid) we are trying to do things right, and not start with debt again. We were searching for a vehicle for me to rive to and from school, and are planing on using our income tax return, $2000.00. i found this car, 2001 Honda Civic, with 65K+ miles on it, for 1950.00 WOW!, so I showed my husband and he said there either has to be something wrong with the car, or its wrong. I emailed the seller, and recived this email.
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $1,950.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Provo, UT at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Diana
I also found a 2001 Volvo S60 that was in good milage, and a good price. This is the email (same day, and time responded)
Hi there,
If you are interested in my car you should know that the car is as good as new, it has never been wrecked or damaged, the car is in excelent condition, it has a clear title. The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping and insurance fees will be $2,000.00 USD. The car is located in USA at Moneybookers company and I live in Scotland. I know the price is cheaper then normal on the market but I want to sell the car faster then usually and I assume that a lower price will be a good solution. I would like to use Moneybookers a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address and I will open a case at Moneybookers and they will contact you with all the information about our deal.
Thank you,
Fred
I have sent and required over 15 vehicles online, and I am waiting to see how many come back with these same responses. i am going to school for Criminal Justice, and maybe i can use some connectins with instructors to catch these guys. I have asked to pick the car up and avoid shipping fees, and the wait, and that i would like to pay in person, but I have not had any response.
Thank God I searched for scams.
I nearly got scammed in Australia, i was in the process of buying concert tickets for $600. the seller said that if i sent my name and address to him, he would give the details to moneybookers and they would email me back with how to pay etc.. Sure enough they did, an email came from moneybookers-transactions@live.com that looked very official. The email told me to go to the closest western union office and send the 600 to :
First name: Nick
Second name: Estep
Address: 70, Saracen Street
City/Suburb: London
Zip code: E14 6HW
Country: United Kingdom
So i did, i was about 2 seconds away from sending the money when i was told of a $50 fee. i Hesitated and went home to see if there was another method of payment. the seller said he would pay the fee and reduce the price of tickets to $550.. This seemed dodgy, so i googled moneybookers scams and found this website, i also emailed moneybookers and they sent me this back:
Thank you for contacting Moneybookers Customer Support.
We can confirm that the e-mail messages received earlier has nothing to do with Moneybookers at all.
We do also confirm that those messages were a scam, which intended to steal personal and financial information from Moneybookers customers (since the pointed transaction ID is not a legit Moneybookers transaction ID number, along with the fact that we do not use the services of other payment providers such as Western Union, Money Gram, etc.).
Thankfully i saved myself $600 but i feel many many other will get caught out through this same scam..
the emails came from a “Thomas Martin” using email address lovecarsw@yahoo.com.
I post this is the hope no-one else gets scammed in this way!
Unfortunately they got me before i found all of these postings. How do we deal with this problem? Local authorities can only go so far and do so much to help us out. What can we do to get our money back from these scammers? catch them in more and lure them in. Email me if anyone is willing to try to find more of them and take action against these scam artists. Let’s end what should not have started.
I am SO glad that I viewed this site today. I was about to be the victim of this very scam. I was recently laid off from my job, and am now in the process of finding an inexpensive cash car. I found a 2005 Honda Accord Coupe on sellmycar.com with very low miles, and priced to sell at $5700. Yesterday I sent a message to the owner via the site inquiring about the car, and why it had not sold considering it had been posted since 12/18, and was selling for less than half its current Blue Book value. When I saw the instructions to do the deal through Moneybook, which I’d never heard of before today, I became a little suspicious, and decided to investigate further. I happened onto this site, and found a posting with almost word for word to the response that was sent back to me from a Laurie Klein. She claims to have lost her job, and had to move back in with her parents in London. She has to sell everything for far less than its worth including her car. I see now that this is a huge scam so thanks so much all of you for your postings. When I saw the following post from mozemoose Aug 19, 2008 at 4:55 pm, it left no doubt in my mind as to the validity of the offer, so I’m posting the response that was sent to me in the event it helps others:
WOW!!!! My son almost got scammed by a woman in Scotland selling a 2003 Nissan Maxima for only 2190.00 Same thing car is in great condition, low miles, no dents, scratches, ect… Money Bookers would handle the transaction. It sounded to good to be true, so we searched Money Bookers and found this site. THANK YOU for saving my son from being scammed.
Hello there. Well I was about to buy tomorrow a car which seemed to good to be true in price and I’m glad I found this site. They jusst sent me 5 minutes ago an invoice asking for a 15,000 deposit. The car is 23,000 and valued at close to 38,000 online. Story is that she is in Spain right now and some moving company called World Safe Shipping has the car and will ship it after my deposit. I offered to call her in Spain but she said she didn’t have a number yet because she just arrived there for her job. Her name, or the name she’s using is Jeniffer Ambers. Anyone ran accross that name before?
I would encourage everyone to leave at least an email and name of the person that was trying to scam you so we can get a pattern on this fother muckers!
WOW!!! I was just about to purchase an automobile through moneybookers, but could not rest for some reason. Thank God for relationship. I got up early this morning to look at this deal again because the ad said the car was in Richmond, VA, but the seller said the car was in Utah. This did not sit well with me, so I replied and asked the seller exactly where the car was located….no response as of yet, but Thanks to the Holy Spirit not allowing me to rest concerning this and the information shared I saved my family finances that we did not have to throw away. Here is a copy of the email sent to me. I hope somone somehow can put a stop to this madness, IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!!
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,420.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Provo, UT at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Diana
In my opinion, is a scam. The Attorney General
listed them as a fictitious business in 2002. They still are.
I sent some money allegedly to their agent in . the bank in question has film of the woman withdrawing the money and leaving the bank.
What a racket – maybe we should all join in the fun.
I’ve been looking to buy a used car off of sellmycar.com. I stumbled upon what seemed like a dream come true. For sale was a 2002 Lexus IS 300, for only $2,380! I was so excited I e mailed “Janice” for more information and this is what she sent me, “Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,380.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Provo, UT at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.”
Thank you
Janice
IT IS SUCH A SCAM! I can’t believe I almost fell for that! Luckily I did not send any money knowing that there are many scams on the internet today, and I’m so glad that I didn’t because after reading this I’ve come to my conclusion that it was a scam! Thanks for warning me, without this blog I may have been fooled!
Thanks to everyone on this site for taking the time to share their valuable information. Also my apologies to those who could not save them self from the misfortune.
I was saved by this website, i was going to purchase a 2006 land rover for 20,000 from some woman in Spain how ever the email and the fax number that i compared with the moneybookers web site did not match and when i asked her to lower the amount from 23,000 to 20,000 she did not hesitate. Also the pictures she used where under someone elses name in a Google account. Again thanks to every one who post the inconveniences in here. We who benefit from it greatly appreciate it.
I ALMOST fell on the same scam. I was buying from VEHIX.COM a BMW X5 for $3,500 from Brenda Wilson brenda.willson@hotmail.com
in Scotland. VIN# 2000 BMW X5/Vin: WBAFB3355YLH04878
. But if is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE… it isn’t!
Be aware!
I just got scammed. There was a 2008 honda accord on sale. I set moneybookers $2500 and then just foubnd out the company is fake. I am so pissed and I am left without a car. Is there anything we can do about this?
BEWARE!!! THIS IS AS RECENT AS TODAY (3/19/09)
This is not only a scam that has a MILLION posts on the internet about how illegit you are, but it is absolutely ridiculous if you think I, or anyone for that matter, would send $2400.00 to an unknown bank account through money bookers and then only “hope” to receive the car in 2 days. I HAVE REPORTED YOU. Thanks for “making me loose my time” as you put it in our previous e-mails.
— On Thu, 3/19/09, Christopher Miller wrote:
From: Christopher Miller
Subject: RE: –2005 Acura TL–
To: kawheatcraft@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 11:43 AM
Hi Kristy,
Here are the transaction steps:
1- You will be contacted by MoneyBookers with all the details about the transaction.
2- You will make a deposit of 30% in to an MoneyBookers agent account.
3-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( the title, owner’s manual, 2 sets of keys, service records, and of course the bill of sale notarized and signed by me). The car will arrive in 48-72 hours at your address.
4- If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance of 70%. If you don’t want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. MoneyBookers will refund you the deposit.
Let me know when you receive the instructions from MoneyBookers.
Best Regards,
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To: christophermiller0218734@msn.com
Subject: Re: –2005 Acura TL–
From: KAWheatcraft@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:12:12 +0000
Hello,
I apologize for the delay. The necessary information is:
Kristy Walker (<~All fake info)
2 Old Gate Road
Milford, CT 06460
(203) 243-6715
I look forward to hearing from you or moneybookers on your behalf as soon as possible to view the vehicle. Thanks. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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From: Christopher Miller
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:59:07 -0500
To:
Subject: –2005 Acura TL–
Hello,
As I told you in my first e-mail, I am in Scotland, United Kingdom with my work. Before leaving US I had prearranged the deal with http://www.MoneyBookers.com so my presence in US isn’t necessary. The car is in their warehouse ready for delivery.You have 10 days to test and inspect the car. So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:
*Full name and address
*Shipping address
*Phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to MoneyBookers and I will proceed the order. MoneyBookers will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller.
Waiting your email with the requested details.
Regards!
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To: christophermiller0218734@msn.com
Subject: Re: 2005 Acura TL
From: KAWheatcraft@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:47:39 +0000
Thank you for your response. Again, I am definitely interested and would like to see the vehicle. Once back in the states, when do you think you would be available to show it? I am currently in Connecticut but frequently travel back and forth to NYC for school. I look forward to hearing back. Thank you. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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From: Christopher Miller
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:14:09 -0500
To:
Subject: 2005 Acura TL
Hello,
Thank you for your interest about my car. Sorry for the delayed response, but I’m in Glasgow (Scotland) right now and I have been very busy. The total price of the 2005 Acura TL is $8,000.00USD . THIS IS MY LAST PRICE. I’ll not negociate the price. The car is registered and located in United States. I want to keep the car for me, but I cannot register it here, as it is made for the USA market, according to US standards. So, I decided to sell it.
A few words about the car:
-2005 Acura TL
-Mileage: 35,100
-Manual
-Title is clean.
-Engine: 6 Cylinder
-Exterior: Burgundy
-Interior: Black
-VIN#19UUA65535A062985
The car is like new, in perfect conditions, accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. A genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
If you have any question please don’t hesitate to reply.
Thank you again for your interest.
I TOO ALMOST FELL VICTIM TO THIS SCAM!!!
here is a link to the car that is being sold on AUTOTRADER.CA,
http://www.trader.ca/Search/Details.asp?UID=8D254BC6A1D6413684D13BC5A5B99FE9&CAT=1&adid=7564440&ads=7564440%7C&BackLink=1
and here is the email I received:
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Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,530.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Vancouver, BC at MoneyBookers and right now I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Julia
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thank you for posting your stories, and I feel really sorry for those of you who got scammed. I had never heard of MB before, and decided to look it up, good thing this was the first website i looked at! Everytime I called the number, I too was directed to some fax number. this is ridiculous!
I am walking away from this crap. this is unreal. these people need to be stopped!!
Jeralee M.
hi, i just asked my father-in-law to check into a car my hubby and i were looking at. a nissan murano for under $5000 and the owner claimed to have just moved to norway because of her job. i was suspicious because the car should go for MUCH more than that amount, and when my FIL researched it he found this site and sent it to me. so sorry to hear about the folks who have lost money to this scam, but i am very glad i smelled the fishy-ness of it and didn’t give them my money.
just goes to show you…if it sounds too good to be true, it most likely IS!
what is wrong with people…seriously? stealing hard-earned money from innocent folks like this…what an evil way to live!
You guys save me. I almost got scam for a 2002 Audi. Thank i did a little search before sending my money. That is a copy of her email.
Hi again,
The car is in El Paso, TX in the possession of Moneybookers, they will ship the car to your address in max. 3 business days. After you receive the car you will have 10 days to test drive it and verify it. It is preferable to have it inspected by a specialist. They have their own Shipping Department and the car will be transported, not driven to your address. If you are a serious buyer the total price of the car will be $2,400.00USD including all the taxes (shipping, insurance, all). The vehicle is absolutely perfect, it has a clean title, has never been repaired, never been involved in any type of accident or had any paint or body work done. Please send me your full name and full shipping address and I will open a case at Moneybookers and they will contact you with all the information about our deal.
I am waiting for your email as soon as possible.
Kind regards!
Martha
PS: My car has 82,934 miles!
Here is another one……
RE: Colour Blue 2002 Suzuki GSX-R – $2870 (Calgary)
From: Marcus Walden (marcswaldn5@hotmail.com)
Sent: April 9, 2009 2:59:32 PM
Hi,
the bike is in great condition, has been properly maintained, has never been laid down or abused in any way. It has a clear title and the price I`m selling it for is $2870, which is including all charges.
I used to live in Calgary but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and I`ll be moving here permanently within the next few months and I can`t afford the luxury of taking the bike with me so I decided to let it go.
I`m using a third party company called MoneyBookers LTD. to sell this bike, I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. They are supervising the entire sale process from payment, shipping with a 14-day inspection period, returns (if needed) and refunding.
If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward.
I will be waiting your email.
Thanks
This is one of the email that this #@!%!@$#%#$% send me………..
I wish I can have this mother@#$@$# …….
From: Janice Gunter
To: yangelhoo@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:33:40 PM
Subject: RE: 2002 Acura MDX On SellMyCar
Hello again ,
Thank you for geting back to me in such short notice with the required informations.
I want to bring to your atention that any transaction I close is recorded by MoneyBookers, they will insure this transaction and we are protected by MoneyBookers.They already know about this transaction between us, and they must contact you with all the necessary informations you might need about our deal as soon as i will forward them your data’s. After you receive the car you will have 10 days to test drive it and verify it. If you are not completely satisfied with the car upon inspection you have absolutely no obligation to buy.
Let me know after you will receive the Invoice from MoneyBookers.
Thank you for your time and kindness.
Janice
Moneybookers still my money. I don’t like to believe them any more.
And the list goes on it is now about a Nissan Altime located in Provo, Utah…. They are trying more remote locations I guess…
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,420.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Provo, UT at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Ashley
thank you all this information, because I almost fall into a scam,,, the price of the car I was getting was too good to be true,, but thank you anyways,,, right now the car still listed on sellmycar and its a toyota highlander 2002
I received 3 responses to 3 different cars in one day all the same BS scam
here’s the first:
From:
“Linda Barnett”
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To:
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in. All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $4,240.00 USD. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Nashville, TN at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case at Moneybookers and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you,
Linda
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here’s the 2nd:
Hello,
If you are interested in my 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe, I must mention that it is in perfect condition, has no scratches, dings, special marks whatsoever. It has 41,800 miles and the VIN # is :JNKCV54EX3M211333. It has a clear title ready to be signed and notarized on your name.
I have the pictures hosted on the net and you can see them at :http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss88/Jerry_bucket_album/.
The car is located in Trabuco Canyon, CA.
The price is $2,496 and there are no other costs regarding this transaction. I am selling the car because I am in the army and my unit will be deployed to Afghanistan next month.. I will buy a new one when I’ll be back home so this car needs to go.
The transaction will be closed only through a 3rd party because this way we will both be protected. My time is limited due to my job in the army so I decided to use a service from PayPay which will serve as our 3rd escrow party in this transaction. To begin the transaction I’ll need your full name and shipping address, I will forward the details of our transaction to PayPay and then you will receive an invoice from them. The car will be shipped insured to your location with DAS and you will have 5 days for inspection, I will pay for shipping.
Thank you,
Jerry Wedel.
here’s the 3rd:
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RE: Sellmycar.com ad – 2005 Infiniti G35 AWD
Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:42 AM
From:
“Carol Stevenson-Murray”
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To:
Hello,
Thank you for your inquiry regarding my vehicle. If you are interested you should know that it has never been wrecked or damaged, the vehicle is in excellent condition. The final price including shipping will be $5,900.00 USD. The vehicle is absolutely perfect, it has a clear title, never been repaired, smoked in, never been involved in any type of accident or had any paint or body work done! I live in England now, where I just moved back with my parents, I was born here and I guess there is no need to explain that due to the financial and economic crisis I lost my job and I had to sell everything I owned in US almost at a price for nothing; my house, all my belongings and finally my car, but that’s the situation, I’m going through really hard times right now. Since it’s located in US, the vehicle will be delivered along with all the documents (the clear and clean title already signed off by me, owner’s manual, 2 sets of keys, service records, and of course the bill of sale notarized and signed by me). I would like to use Moneybookers, a third party service, for our both safety and comfort (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me the buyer’s name and shipping address, I’ll open a case and the company will contact you with all the information about our deal.
Regards.
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THIS IS UNBELI3VABLE!!! I am so glad I found this. I a single mom, in nursing school and working 2 jobs and my car quit on me. I thought for the price and low mileage, any of these cars would have been great!!
They say if it seems too good to be true then it is not true. I found this add on AutoTrader. How many people get suckered in with such adds?
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in. All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,700.00 CAD. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Edmonton, AB at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case at Moneybookers and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you,
Martha
im glad i did my research
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title. The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,570.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in New York, NY at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment). The car is in their warehouse ready for delivery.You have 10 days to test and inspect the car. So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:
*Full name
*Shipping address
*Phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to MoneyBookers and I will proceed the order. MoneyBookers will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller.
Thank you
Susan
Thanks god I noticed it on time! Those criminals always find a way to scam. They have just put an announcement of flat rental in Spain. I applied. That is normal. Then they wrote me an e-mail, well she, telling that she is in an civil engineer and she got a job in London, so she has to leave the flat. The conditions are excellent. But the keys and the contract are with her. She gives you an excellent solution how to pick up your keys. Using moneybookers! Great I thought it a well known way to do payments. She gave me the name of an agent to whom I should send 500 Euros by Western Union. Thanks god we went to a post office where the guy warned us that in UK it is possible to withdraw money without ID. Fortunately, we did not send the transfer code. We called moneybookers to verify all the data we had. They told us that they do don’t have agents and do not work with Western Union. So be careful! These criminals are everywhere!
Hello,
moneybookers.com is legit, however, if you read wikipedia online shows you information for example…….Wikipedia states….
Moneybookers allows customers to send, receive and hold funds in 29 currencies worldwide and offers local payments in 30+ countries. However, Moneybookers US customers cannot receive money and foreign customers cannot upload funds using cards or accounts located in the US. Moneybookers also offers escrow payments (for online trading) as well as online SMS and fax sending services.
MoneyBookers.com reserves the right to lock any account at any time. Further they also reserve the right to impose a fee on any account at any time when a customer violates the terms and conditions they have agreed with upon registration. This information is stated within their terms and conditions
ive hade 2 people try to scam me and one my freind and all the scams ive heard along with mine the people scaming were all in the uk and the car is located in your area so if anyone has left the countrey without the car seems to be a scam no more BS with the people who are apparently in the uk and the car is located somewhere else (would you leave the car behind or take it with you?)
I found a piece of exercise equipment I’ve been wanting at a “too good to be true” price. The seller even had pictures. I asked how I would buy it. He said through moneybookers. At this point now, I am assuming this is a scam. Most of the machines on the market are $2-3k. This one is only $1k. Too good to be true. Wow, I can’t believe I almost sent this guy $1k! Rip off probably. Not sure but don’t want to risk it.
Lol i send cash to my mony bookers for the first time they asked for so much information and they still didnt give it to me? wtf is that lol
i waited for 8 days now
and still nothing is it just a scam? or are they going to really send it?
let me know plz
Moneypenny this will be a long post however it will include all emails on this scam from start to finsh.
Found in incredible deal on autotrader (first red flag)2008 Ford Explorer Sport for $8,800.00 (these book private party sell at $21,000.00)
And so as a babe in the woods I began my first contact through autotrader. the inquiry was about lowering the price. (figured it would help me determine a fraud)
I got what appears to be the standard email reply:
From: Alexander Gordon
Subject: 2008 Ford Explorer Sport
To: (deleted)
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 5:27 AM
Hello,
Thank you for your interest about my car. Sorry for the delayed response, but I’m in Glasgow (Scotland) right now and I have been very busy. The total price of the 2008 Ford Explorer Sport is $8,800.00USD . THIS IS MY LAST PRICE. I’ll not negociate the price. The car is registered and located in United States. I want to keep the car for me, but I cannot register it here, as it is made for the USA market, according to US standards. So, I decided to sell it.
A few words about the car:
-2008 Ford Explorer Sport
-Body type: SUV
-Mileage: 24,507
-Transmission : Automatic
-Vehicle title : Clear
-Engine: 6 Cylinder
-Fuel type: Gasoline
-Exterior: Red
-Interior: Tan
-VIN#1FMEU33E18UA34158
The car is like new, in perfect conditions, accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. A genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
If you have any question please don’t hesitate to reply. I will appreciate an answer as soon as possible.
Thank you again for your interest.
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Ok so the price was firm, and I noted he wanted me to not ‘loose’ time AKA hurry hurry hurry, (second red flag) however I had questions about where the truck was (I live in the desert and the pictures showed a whole lotta green around the truck, third red flag)
My second email to this ‘honest time saving man’:
Ok a couple of questions,
Where is the vehicle located? (just so know if I need go on a trip to get it).
And would you be able to finalize any deal on the Explorer face to face. I will not under any conditions wire, send, or mail the $8,800.00 payment.
Thank you for you time on this. Have a nice day.
‘Alexanders response:
On Mon, 8/10/09, Alexander Gordon wrote:
From: Alexander Gordon
Subject: –2008 Ford Explorer Sport–
To: (deleted)
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 2:38 PM
Hello,
As I told you in my first e-mail, I am in Scotland, United Kingdom with my work. Before leaving US I had prearranged the deal with http://www.MoneyBookers.com so my presence in US isn’t necessary. The car is in their warehouse ready for delivery.You have 10 days to test and inspect the car. So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:
*Full name and address
*Shipping address
*Phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to MoneyBookers and I will proceed the order. MoneyBookers will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller.
Waiting your email with the requested details.
Regards!
At this point I have MAJOR doubts, deep ones, however that naging little voice in the back of your head, you know the one that tells you really can beat the odds and win big in vegas, the one that won’t just let you walk away for the chance at a huge deal, so I do an autocheck on the VIN #, it showed a lein on the ‘clear’ title.
So my next inquiry on my new rushed little friend:
Hello Alexander, I did a autocheck on the vin # provided and the history result has a lien on the vehicle:
Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
03/20/2008 FORT WORTH, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/03/2008 FORT WORTH, TX 102 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:19930039525151421) (Lien Reported)
03/01/2009 FORT WORTH, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
what is the info on the 04/03/08 lien?
My full name is (deleted)
That should also cover the shipping address.
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I did this because i figured if he ignores my question about the title and moves forward on the money SCAMSCAMSCAMSCAM.
‘Honest Alex’ replies:
RE: –2008 Ford Explorer Sport–ASAP
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:50 PM
From: “Alexander Gordon” Add sender to Contacts
To: (deleted)
Hello again,
When you receive MoneyBookers instructions about down payment read it and contact me.
Thank you
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SCAM. and the following email came from ‘moneybooker.com’ within the hour
MoneyBookers Escrow Transaction #MB01005235 Started!Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:49 PM
From: “MoneyBookers Ltd.” Add sender to Contacts
To: (deleted)
XX NOTE that it is moneybookers Ltd, and ‘office@moneybookerSALES.com’ now NOTE XX
Pending Delivery Shipment
(Keep this for your records)
Transaction #MB01005235
Transaction Date: August 11 2009
Buyer’s Details:
First Name: (deleted)
Last Name: (deleted)
Address: (deleted)
City: (deleted)
State: (deleted)
Zip Code: (deleted)
Country: USA
Seller’s Details:
First Name: Alexander
Last Name: Gordon
Address: 23 Lake Road
City: Glasgow
State: —
Zip Code: B-203
Country: Scotland
Shipment Information:
Service:
Handled by: MoneyBookers – Online
MoneyBookers – United States
Guaranteed delivery:
3-5 days after payment confirmation
Declared Value:
Commercial Value:
Days for Inspection: USD 8,800.00
No Commercial Value
10 days
Description of Goods: 2008 Ford Explorer Sport
Additional Services: None
Status of Inspection:
Pending
Shipping: USD 0.00
*Note: Shipping expenses are covered by Seller.
Shipment Information:
Package 1 of 1
Tracking Number:
Pending*
Package Type:
MoneyBookers Insured
Insured MoneyBookers Deposit:
Insured MoneyBookers Amount:
Insured MoneyBookers Remaining Balance:
USD 2,640.00 (30%)
USD 8,800.00
USD 6,160.00
The escrow process for the completion of a transaction (purchase or sale) through Internet can be done in five simple steps:
1. The buyer and the seller agree to the terms and details of the transaction.
2. The buyer sends the safe deposit to MoneyBookers verified agent. Payment is verified and deposited into a trust account.
3. MoneyBookers ships the merchandise to the buyer, knowing that the buyer’s payment is secured.
4. The buyer accepts the merchandise after having the opportunity to inspect it.
5. MoneyBookers pays the seller after all conditions of the transaction are met.
How to make the payment:
Our department require the payment to be done through WesternUnion money transfer service to our Verified Agent:
1) Click HERE to locate the nearest WesternUnion Office.
2) Make the payment for the deposit with cash using our verified MoneyBookers Agent details as receiver:
MoneyBookers Verified Agent Details:
Name: Carol Morgan
Street: 296 Charlton Road
City: Bristol
State: Bristol
Zip Code: BS10 6JU
Country: United Kingdom
3) Fax the WesternUnion receipt at the following fax # : +1-(425)-969-5381
– E–mail us – by replying to this e-mail – the following details from the payment receipt:
– MTCN – 10 digits number from the receipt
– Sender Name and Address
– Receiver Name (MoneyBookers Agent)
– Amount Sent
To avoid WesternUnion fees you will have to declare at the WesternUnion office that the money will be sent for a relative or friend (the transfer commission will be smaller 3~5%). For online payments, you could pay 10~12% transfer commission.
Sales Hotline
Please do not make any marks on the transfer copy. The following information must be readable
Once the payment is done and the verification is complete, we will proceed with the shipping of the package. We will inform the Seller that the payment was sent and that the package was shipped as soon as we get the payment confirmation. Just follow the instructions above.
4 – Step Trust Process for MoneyBookers.
1. Buyer send payments to us.
The Buyer submits a Deposit of 2640$ selecting WesternUnion service to MoneyBookers verified agent in United Kingdom.
MoneyBookers verifies the payment. The Seller does not get paid until the buyer accepts the merchandise or the inspection period expires.
2.Delivery is started.
The company will ship the merchandise , you will receive the tracking number, bill of sale and bill of lading , all that
are copy, the original will come along with the merchandise and all the documents.
3. The Inspections of the merchandise.
The Buyer has a set number of days (10 days) to inspect the merchandise, to accept it, reject it or claim non-delivery. In case that the merchendise is not as described by the seller, the buyer will get a full refund. Funds will not be released to the Seller until the buyer has received and approved the items he is purchasing. This eliminates the concern for non-shipment of goods.
4. Seller is paid transaction ends.
The payment is released to the seller. The transaction is complete.
Please respond to this email with information regarding your case, complaints or payment details.
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department) MoneyBookers.
All contents 1999-2009 by Moneybookers Ltd.
All Rights Reserved.
ALSO when i inquired further about the lien on the title, he told me it was clean and simply hadn’t been updated, and that I didn’t have a thing to worry about as he was incuring all the risk as i would have his truck at my disposal for only 2,640.00, and that to ensure the trust of the deal he dosen’t even get that untill I accept the merchandise, so what did I have to ‘loose’?
I hope this post will help others avoid be taken, or better help law enforcment catch those who attempt this in the future.
thank this site for save me from scammed.I almost got in it, when I try to find a safe money receriver agent to transfer my money to the scammer I found this webside and read all these comment. thank god and I am sorry for those who lost their money to this scams.following are email from the scamers.
From: Shepherd tomi
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:57:47 PM
Subject: RE: 2006 HONDA CIVIC from Buysell.com!
Hi,
I know that you have many choices on BuySell and I appreciate that you contacted me.
The car is in a perfect condition, 100% original and the engine works great. Like you already have seen in the pictures, no scratches, no rust, no damages, no hidden defects. I sell it so cheap because I just moved from Canada.The car is still registered there. Those are the reasons why I’m selling it for $4,800.00 including the shipping and insurance charges. All documents and the notarized bill of sale will be provided along with the car.
The transaction will be made under an escrow company called Moneybookers.
I’m a serious seller and a fair trader and I prefer to deal only with a serious buyer. If you consider yourself one please e-mail me back so we can start our deal.
Thank you!
I said I am a serious buyer, then he send me another email:
From: Shepherd tomi
To:
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 2:03:00 PM
Subject: RE: 2006 HONDA CIVIC from Buysell.com!
Hello again,
The car is in Vancouver crated and ready to be shipped. I work at 1st Move International Ltd and I will ship it on my own expense. I moved with my job to Oslo,Norway.
Moneybookers is an escrow company. They will secure your deposit. Practically you don’t send me any money up front.
Your deposit is verified and deposited into a trust account and this way I can’t take the money until you receive and inspect the car.You will have 5 days to inspect it.If the car isn’t like I advertised it, you can say that you don’t buy it, and it will be shipped back at my own expense and you will be completely refund.
If you are still interested please send me your full details and I will open a transaction case at Moneybookers.
My best wishes and I’m waiting your response so we can move forward with this deal.
I gave him my name and address and I got moneybookers email want me to transfer money.I saw the e-mail and told him I don’t feel secure about the transfer and the deal so I want to terminated the deal. he send me anothe email:
From: Shepherd tomi
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:56:17 PM
Subject: RE: 2006 HONDA CIVIC from Buysell.com!
Hi,
Here’s how it works: you make the payment of CAD$4800 to go to a moneygram office (total including shipping)using your MoneyBookers agent name and address like receiver for a personal business( they hold the money until you receive the car–so i can be sure that i’m not selling the car for nothing.), they ship the car at your address, you can inspect it, take it to a mechanic to check it out, drive it. Once you have inspected the car and decided to keep it, you will confirm the sale to MoneyBookers and they will re-route the money in to my account. If, by any reason, you won’t be satisfied with it ( even though I can assure you that it is exactly as described), you can return it at my expense for a full refund of your money, no questions asked. I think this is more than fair for the both of us.
Thanks
Yup, this was the exact wording about BMW 325i for $8,700…thought it was kind of strange that such a good deal would still be around after the add had been up for 6 months. Thank you so much for this information…this guy’s name apparently was listed as William Thompson.
Hello,
Thank you for your interest about my car. Sorry for the delayed response, but I’m in Glasgow (Scotland) right now and I have been very busy. The total price of the 2006 BMW 325i is $8,700.00USD . THIS IS MY LAST PRICE. I’ll not negociate the price. The car is registered and located in United States. I want to keep the car for me, but I cannot register it here, as it is made for the USA market, according to US standards. So, I decided to sell it.
A few words about the car:
- 2006 BMW 325i
- Body type: Sedan
- Mileage: 38,959
- Transmission: Automatic
- Vehicle title: Clear
- Engine: 3.0L V6 FI DOHC 24V
- Fuel type: Gasoline
- Exterior: Black
- Interior: Black
- Drivetrain: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
- VIN#WBAVB13596PT02963
The car is like new, in perfect conditions, accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. A genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
If you have any question please don’t hesitate to reply.
Thank you again for your interest.
William Thompson
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As I told you in my first e-mail, I am in Scotland, United Kingdom with my work. Before leaving US I had prearranged the deal with http://www.MoneyBookers.com so my presence in US isn’t necessary. The car is in their warehouse ready for delivery.You have 10 days to test and inspect the car. So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:
*Full name and address
*Shipping address
*Phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to MoneyBookers and I will proceed the order. MoneyBookers will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller.
Waiting your email with the requested details.
Regards!
William Thompson
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Here are the transaction steps:
1- You will be contacted by MoneyBookers with all the details about the transaction.
2- You will make a deposit of 30% in to an MoneyBookers agent account.
3-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( the title, owner’s manual, 2 sets of keys, service records, and of course the bill of sale notarized and signed by me). The car will arrive in 48-72 hours at your address.
4- If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance of 70%. If you don’t want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. MoneyBookers will refund you the deposit.
Let me know when you receive the instructions from MoneyBookers.
Best Regards,
William Thompson
I got scammed – yes it’s true – I wish I had found this site prior to losing my money. I am devistated I could be such an idiot. There has to be something we can do. I will post the same stupid eails every one else got too.
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,800.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Vancouver, BC at MoneyBookers and right now I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Diana
If anyone has had any luck in getting these criminals let me know.
Tracey
Hi Tracey,
…Diana is getting cheaper….Below is the e-mail I have received from her. I found this “gem” Nissan and couldn’t believe the price. What surprised me was that she said that MoneyBookers will SHIP the car for her. It’s like PayPal – they DO NOT SHIP a thing! After that it was easy to find “scam” stuff on the Net. I will forward her e-mail to the police and other places I know.
Good luck for future.
Wojtek
This Nissan Altima was advertised on Autotrader for Ottawa region.
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From: Diana Gunter [mailto:gntd@hotmail.com]
Sent: April-17-09 4:26 AM
To: xxx
Subject: RE: Nissan Altima Web ID 7633669
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,550.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Vancouver, BC at MoneyBookers and right now I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Diana
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From: David Duggan
To: xxxxx@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:19:34 AM
Subject: RE: Your TL
Hello,
Before leaving Canada I had prearranged the deal with MoneyBookers Escrow so my presence in Canada isn’t necessary. The car is in their warehouse in Vancouver, B.C. ready for delivery.
You will have 10 days to test and inspect the car and to decide if you want to keep it or not.
So, if you are really interested in this deal I need the following details from you:
full name and address
shipping address
phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to MoneyBookers and I will proceed the order. MoneyBookers will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller.
Waiting your email with the requested details.
Best Regards!
SGT. David Duggan
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:42:17 -0700
From: e2yash@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Your TL
To: davecar21@msn.com
ok, well if the car is original, no accidents and in excellent shape then I want it. I need to get a car very very soon as my car was writen off just recently..
so how do we do this, is there someone here who could show me the car and do the deal with me here?
I need a car with in the next few days! pls get back to me asap. thanx!
Yash
Cell# 416-xxx-xxxx
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From: David Duggan
To: e2yash@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:23:37 AM
Subject: RE: Your TL
Hello,
Thank you for your interest about my car. Sorry for the delayed response, but I’m in Afghanistan right now and I’ve been very busy.
The total price of the 2005 Acura 3.2 TL is $7,500CDN. THIS IS MY LAST PRICE. I will not negociate the price.
I want to keep the car for me but I left in the military for a 3 years contract, so I decided to sell it.
A few words about the car:
- 2005 Acura 3.2 TL
- KM:58,000
- Transmission: Automatic
- Exterior color:Silver
- Interior color:Black Leather
- Engine: 3.2L V6 PFI SOHC 24V
- FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
- Vin# 19UUA66285A801904
- Body: SEDAN 4 Door
The car is in perfect conditions, accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for repairs.
If you have any question please don’t hesitate to reply but only if you shall understand and you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
Thank you again for your interest.
Best Regards,
SGT. David Duggan
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:46:47 -0700
From: e2yash@yahoo.com
Subject: Your TL
To: davecar21@msn.com
Hi Dave, im interested in your car, are you in Toronto?
pls forward you phone number if you would and a good time to call, so we can go over this. thanks
Yash
OMG! THANK GOD FOR THIS SITE, I ALMOST GOT SCAMMED! I FOUND AN UNBELIEVEABLE TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE 2003 RANGE ROVER GOING FOR $5,200. YEAH RIGHT! IT HAD 95,000 MILES OR SO ON IT. I EMAILED THE SELLER AND I GOT THE SAME REPLY BACK THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE POSTED AS WELL. BUT, I HAVE A DIFFERENT NAME.
HERE IS THE MESSAGE I RECEIEVED:Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $1,950.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Provo, UT at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Ashley
An email I received about a Honda Accord I found on autotrader.ca
Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in.
All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $1,900.00. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Vancouver, BC at MoneyBookers and right now I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you
Jamal
It looks same letter!
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Hi there,
The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches and the interior is in like new condition, never smoked in. All the maintenance done on a regular basis and I have all the service records for it. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title.
The total price that I ‘m asking for the car including shipping will be $2,700.00 CAD. I am selling it so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Edmonton, AB at MoneyBookers and I live in Scotland. I would like to use MoneyBookers Shipping Department a third party service to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort (they will take care of the shipping/payment).
If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case at Moneybookers and they will contact you with all the informations about our deal.
Thank you,
Martha