Comments on: Fake moneybookers scam ?

By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:56:41 +0000

I everyone.. I received a similar email about a 69 Camaro worth 45,000 selling for 2900.. Just remember.. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Do your research. There are great deals out there, you have to pay attention to what people say and don’t ignore inconsistancy.

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:29:13 +0000

I got this one today and happend to google sellmycar.com so I could look at the truck again…lucky found this site and was not scammed, thank you!
From: markessner@msn.com
To: xxxxxx@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: 2002 Toyota Tacoma on SellMyCar
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:27:23 -0600

Hello,

The car is in perfect working condition, it doesn’t have any dents, chips or scratches. It’s accident-free and has a clean and clear title. I’m selling this car for $2,500.00USD including shipping at your address. The car is in Sarasota, FL in possession of eBay ready for delivery. I would like to use eBay Vehicle Protection Program to handle this transaction for our both safety and comfort. I want only legit transactions.

If you are still interested just send me your full name and shipping address, phone# and I will open a case and eBay will contact you with all the informations about our deal (they will take care of the shipping/payment).

Thank you!
Mark

By: Randy McCarty

Randy McCarty — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:22:58 +0000

yea im dealing with a chick named amber long. her ameail is amber33long@hotmail.com. she is trying to sell me a 2002 Mitsubishi Evolution with 56,200miles on it. its awd and turboed. these cars price at 18-20 thousand. she wants 2500 for it. she says it was her late husbands. and she had to move to her mothers in kalipsell montana. but the car is in new york at sellmycar.com. but she doesnt have her license and has two children. but i think this is a scam. what do u all think?

By: Heather

Heather — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:31:36 +0000

Yup, this was the exact wording about BMW 325i for $8,700…thought it was kind of strange that such a good deal would still be around after the add had been up for 6 months. Thank you so much for this information…this guy’s name apparently was listed as William Thompson.

Hello,
Thank you for your interest about my car. Sorry for the delayed response, but I’m in Glasgow (Scotland) right now and I have been very busy. The total price of the 2006 BMW 325i is $8,700.00USD . THIS IS MY LAST PRICE. I’ll not negociate the price. The car is registered and located in United States. I want to keep the car for me, but I cannot register it here, as it is made for the USA market, according to US standards. So, I decided to sell it.
A few words about the car:
- 2006 BMW 325i
- Body type: Sedan
- Mileage: 38,959
- Transmission: Automatic
- Vehicle title: Clear
- Engine: 3.0L V6 FI DOHC 24V
- Fuel type: Gasoline
- Exterior: Black
- Interior: Black
- Drivetrain: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
- VIN#WBAVB13596PT02963
The car is like new, in perfect conditions, accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. A genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
If you have any question please don’t hesitate to reply.

Thank you again for your interest.

William Thompson

Next-
As I told you in my first e-mail, I am in Scotland, United Kingdom with my work. Before leaving US I had prearranged the deal with http://www.MoneyBookers.com so my presence in US isn’t necessary. The car is in their warehouse ready for delivery.You have 10 days to test and inspect the car. So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:

*Full name and address
*Shipping address
*Phone #

After I will have all this details I will forward them to MoneyBookers and I will proceed the order. MoneyBookers will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller.
Waiting your email with the requested details.

Regards!

William Thompson

Next-
Here are the transaction steps:
1- You will be contacted by MoneyBookers with all the details about the transaction.
2- You will make a deposit of 30% in to an MoneyBookers agent account.
3-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( the title, owner’s manual, 2 sets of keys, service records, and of course the bill of sale notarized and signed by me). The car will arrive in 48-72 hours at your address.
4- If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance of 70%. If you don’t want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. MoneyBookers will refund you the deposit.
Let me know when you receive the instructions from MoneyBookers.

Best Regards,

William Thompson

By: cindy

cindy — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:57:56 +0000

thank this site for save me from scammed.I almost got in it, when I try to find a safe money receriver agent to transfer my money to the scammer I found this webside and read all these comment. thank god and I am sorry for those who lost their money to this scams.following are email from the scamers.

From: Shepherd tomi
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:57:47 PM
Subject: RE: 2006 HONDA CIVIC from Buysell.com!

Hi,
I know that you have many choices on BuySell and I appreciate that you contacted me.
The car is in a perfect condition, 100% original and the engine works great. Like you already have seen in the pictures, no scratches, no rust, no damages, no hidden defects. I sell it so cheap because I just moved from Canada.The car is still registered there. Those are the reasons why I’m selling it for $4,800.00 including the shipping and insurance charges. All documents and the notarized bill of sale will be provided along with the car.
The transaction will be made under an escrow company called Moneybookers.
I’m a serious seller and a fair trader and I prefer to deal only with a serious buyer. If you consider yourself one please e-mail me back so we can start our deal.
Thank you!

I said I am a serious buyer, then he send me another email:

From: Shepherd tomi
To:
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 2:03:00 PM
Subject: RE: 2006 HONDA CIVIC from Buysell.com!

Hello again,

The car is in Vancouver crated and ready to be shipped. I work at 1st Move International Ltd and I will ship it on my own expense. I moved with my job to Oslo,Norway.
Moneybookers is an escrow company. They will secure your deposit. Practically you don’t send me any money up front.
Your deposit is verified and deposited into a trust account and this way I can’t take the money until you receive and inspect the car.You will have 5 days to inspect it.If the car isn’t like I advertised it, you can say that you don’t buy it, and it will be shipped back at my own expense and you will be completely refund.
If you are still interested please send me your full details and I will open a transaction case at Moneybookers.

My best wishes and I’m waiting your response so we can move forward with this deal.
I gave him my name and address and I got moneybookers email want me to transfer money.I saw the e-mail and told him I don’t feel secure about the transfer and the deal so I want to terminated the deal. he send me anothe email:

From: Shepherd tomi
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:56:17 PM
Subject: RE: 2006 HONDA CIVIC from Buysell.com!

Hi,

Here’s how it works: you make the payment of CAD$4800 to go to a moneygram office (total including shipping)using your MoneyBookers agent name and address like receiver for a personal business( they hold the money until you receive the car–so i can be sure that i’m not selling the car for nothing.), they ship the car at your address, you can inspect it, take it to a mechanic to check it out, drive it. Once you have inspected the car and decided to keep it, you will confirm the sale to MoneyBookers and they will re-route the money in to my account. If, by any reason, you won’t be satisfied with it ( even though I can assure you that it is exactly as described), you can return it at my expense for a full refund of your money, no questions asked. I think this is more than fair for the both of us.

Thanks

By: Closebutnocigar

Closebutnocigar — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:38:50 +0000

Moneypenny this will be a long post however it will include all emails on this scam from start to finsh.

Found in incredible deal on autotrader (first red flag)2008 Ford Explorer Sport for $8,800.00 (these book private party sell at $21,000.00)

And so as a babe in the woods I began my first contact through autotrader. the inquiry was about lowering the price. (figured it would help me determine a fraud)

I got what appears to be the standard email reply:
From: Alexander Gordon
Subject: 2008 Ford Explorer Sport
To: (deleted)
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 5:27 AM

Hello,
Thank you for your interest about my car. Sorry for the delayed response, but I’m in Glasgow (Scotland) right now and I have been very busy. The total price of the 2008 Ford Explorer Sport is $8,800.00USD . THIS IS MY LAST PRICE. I’ll not negociate the price. The car is registered and located in United States. I want to keep the car for me, but I cannot register it here, as it is made for the USA market, according to US standards. So, I decided to sell it.
A few words about the car:
-2008 Ford Explorer Sport
-Body type: SUV
-Mileage: 24,507
-Transmission : Automatic
-Vehicle title : Clear
-Engine: 6 Cylinder
-Fuel type: Gasoline
-Exterior: Red
-Interior: Tan
-VIN#1FMEU33E18UA34158
The car is like new, in perfect conditions, accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. A genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
If you have any question please don’t hesitate to reply. I will appreciate an answer as soon as possible.

Thank you again for your interest.
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Ok so the price was firm, and I noted he wanted me to not ‘loose’ time AKA hurry hurry hurry, (second red flag) however I had questions about where the truck was (I live in the desert and the pictures showed a whole lotta green around the truck, third red flag)

My second email to this ‘honest time saving man’:
Ok a couple of questions,

Where is the vehicle located? (just so know if I need go on a trip to get it).

And would you be able to finalize any deal on the Explorer face to face. I will not under any conditions wire, send, or mail the $8,800.00 payment.

Thank you for you time on this. Have a nice day.

‘Alexanders response:
On Mon, 8/10/09, Alexander Gordon wrote:

From: Alexander Gordon
Subject: –2008 Ford Explorer Sport–
To: (deleted)
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 2:38 PM

Hello,
As I told you in my first e-mail, I am in Scotland, United Kingdom with my work. Before leaving US I had prearranged the deal with http://www.MoneyBookers.com so my presence in US isn’t necessary. The car is in their warehouse ready for delivery.You have 10 days to test and inspect the car. So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:

*Full name and address
*Shipping address
*Phone #

Regards!

At this point I have MAJOR doubts, deep ones, however that naging little voice in the back of your head, you know the one that tells you really can beat the odds and win big in vegas, the one that won’t just let you walk away for the chance at a huge deal, so I do an autocheck on the VIN #, it showed a lein on the ‘clear’ title.

So my next inquiry on my new rushed little friend:
Hello Alexander, I did a autocheck on the vin # provided and the history result has a lien on the vehicle:

Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
03/20/2008 FORT WORTH, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/03/2008 FORT WORTH, TX 102 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:19930039525151421) (Lien Reported)
03/01/2009 FORT WORTH, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

what is the info on the 04/03/08 lien?

My full name is (deleted)
That should also cover the shipping address.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I did this because i figured if he ignores my question about the title and moves forward on the money SCAMSCAMSCAMSCAM.

‘Honest Alex’ replies:
RE: –2008 Ford Explorer Sport–ASAP
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:50 PM
From: “Alexander Gordon” Add sender to Contacts
To: (deleted)

Hello again,
When you receive MoneyBookers instructions about down payment read it and contact me.

Thank you
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

SCAM. and the following email came from ‘moneybooker.com’ within the hour

MoneyBookers Escrow Transaction #MB01005235 Started!Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:49 PM
From: “MoneyBookers Ltd.” Add sender to Contacts
To: (deleted)

XX NOTE that it is moneybookers Ltd, and ‘office@moneybookerSALES.com’ now NOTE XX

Pending Delivery Shipment

(Keep this for your records)

Transaction #MB01005235
Transaction Date: August 11 2009
Buyer’s Details:

First Name: (deleted)
Last Name: (deleted)
Address: (deleted)
City: (deleted)
State: (deleted)
Zip Code: (deleted)
Country: USA

Seller’s Details:

First Name: Alexander
Last Name: Gordon
Address: 23 Lake Road
City: Glasgow
State: —
Zip Code: B-203
Country: Scotland

Shipment Information:

Service:
Handled by: MoneyBookers – Online
MoneyBookers – United States
Guaranteed delivery:

3-5 days after payment confirmation
Declared Value:
Commercial Value:
Days for Inspection: USD 8,800.00
No Commercial Value
10 days

Description of Goods: 2008 Ford Explorer Sport
Additional Services: None
Status of Inspection:
Pending

Shipping: USD 0.00

*Note: Shipping expenses are covered by Seller.

Shipment Information:

Package 1 of 1

Tracking Number:
Pending*
Package Type:
MoneyBookers Insured

Insured MoneyBookers Deposit:
Insured MoneyBookers Amount:
Insured MoneyBookers Remaining Balance:
USD 2,640.00 (30%)
USD 8,800.00
USD 6,160.00

The escrow process for the completion of a transaction (purchase or sale) through Internet can be done in five simple steps:

1. The buyer and the seller agree to the terms and details of the transaction.
2. The buyer sends the safe deposit to MoneyBookers verified agent. Payment is verified and deposited into a trust account.
3. MoneyBookers ships the merchandise to the buyer, knowing that the buyer’s payment is secured.
4. The buyer accepts the merchandise after having the opportunity to inspect it.
5. MoneyBookers pays the seller after all conditions of the transaction are met.

How to make the payment:

Our department require the payment to be done through WesternUnion money transfer service to our Verified Agent:

1) Click HERE to locate the nearest WesternUnion Office.
2) Make the payment for the deposit with cash using our verified MoneyBookers Agent details as receiver:

MoneyBookers Verified Agent Details:

Name: Carol Morgan
Street: 296 Charlton Road
City: Bristol
State: Bristol
Zip Code: BS10 6JU
Country: United Kingdom

3) Fax the WesternUnion receipt at the following fax # : +1-(425)-969-5381

– E–mail us – by replying to this e-mail – the following details from the payment receipt:

– MTCN – 10 digits number from the receipt
– Sender Name and Address
– Receiver Name (MoneyBookers Agent)
– Amount Sent

To avoid WesternUnion fees you will have to declare at the WesternUnion office that the money will be sent for a relative or friend (the transfer commission will be smaller 3~5%). For online payments, you could pay 10~12% transfer commission.

Sales Hotline

Please do not make any marks on the transfer copy. The following information must be readable
Once the payment is done and the verification is complete, we will proceed with the shipping of the package. We will inform the Seller that the payment was sent and that the package was shipped as soon as we get the payment confirmation. Just follow the instructions above.

4 – Step Trust Process for MoneyBookers.

1. Buyer send payments to us.
The Buyer submits a Deposit of 2640$ selecting WesternUnion service to MoneyBookers verified agent in United Kingdom.
MoneyBookers verifies the payment. The Seller does not get paid until the buyer accepts the merchandise or the inspection period expires.

2.Delivery is started.
The company will ship the merchandise , you will receive the tracking number, bill of sale and bill of lading , all that
are copy, the original will come along with the merchandise and all the documents.

3. The Inspections of the merchandise.
The Buyer has a set number of days (10 days) to inspect the merchandise, to accept it, reject it or claim non-delivery. In case that the merchendise is not as described by the seller, the buyer will get a full refund. Funds will not be released to the Seller until the buyer has received and approved the items he is purchasing. This eliminates the concern for non-shipment of goods.

4. Seller is paid transaction ends.
The payment is released to the seller. The transaction is complete.

Please respond to this email with information regarding your case, complaints or payment details.
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department) MoneyBookers.

ALSO when i inquired further about the lien on the title, he told me it was clean and simply hadn’t been updated, and that I didn’t have a thing to worry about as he was incuring all the risk as i would have his truck at my disposal for only 2,640.00, and that to ensure the trust of the deal he dosen’t even get that untill I accept the merchandise, so what did I have to ‘loose’?

I hope this post will help others avoid be taken, or better help law enforcment catch those who attempt this in the future.

By: Moey

Moey — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:34:05 +0000

Lol i send cash to my mony bookers for the first time they asked for so much information and they still didnt give it to me? wtf is that lol
i waited for 8 days now
and still nothing is it just a scam? or are they going to really send it?
let me know plz

By: Bryan

Bryan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:56:58 +0000

I found a piece of exercise equipment I’ve been wanting at a “too good to be true” price. The seller even had pictures. I asked how I would buy it. He said through moneybookers. At this point now, I am assuming this is a scam. Most of the machines on the market are $2-3k. This one is only $1k. Too good to be true. Wow, I can’t believe I almost sent this guy $1k! Rip off probably. Not sure but don’t want to risk it.

By: martin

martin — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:11:49 +0000

ive hade 2 people try to scam me and one my freind and all the scams ive heard along with mine the people scaming were all in the uk and the car is located in your area so if anyone has left the countrey without the car seems to be a scam no more BS with the people who are apparently in the uk and the car is located somewhere else (would you leave the car behind or take it with you?)

By: Rida

Rida — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:40:07 +0000

Hello,

moneybookers.com is legit, however, if you read wikipedia online shows you information for example…….Wikipedia states….
Moneybookers allows customers to send, receive and hold funds in 29 currencies worldwide and offers local payments in 30+ countries. However, Moneybookers US customers cannot receive money and foreign customers cannot upload funds using cards or accounts located in the US. Moneybookers also offers escrow payments (for online trading) as well as online SMS and fax sending services.

MoneyBookers.com reserves the right to lock any account at any time. Further they also reserve the right to impose a fee on any account at any time when a customer violates the terms and conditions they have agreed with upon registration. This information is stated within their terms and conditions