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	<title>Comments on: George Orwell Returns to Bash 1-2-3 Fit, Butterfly Life Fitness Franchises</title>
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		<title>By: Pete (anon)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete (anon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean. Thank you for your thoghtful response. I will carefully consider what you have written. Maybe there is an opportunity to get the story of successful 123 Fits out there. Ball is in my court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean. Thank you for your thoghtful response. I will carefully consider what you have written. Maybe there is an opportunity to get the story of successful 123 Fits out there. Ball is in my court.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...they failed because they made bad business and pricing decisions.&lt;/i&gt;
Pete (anon):  Can you be specific?  What is the pricing strategy of the successful clubs?  What is the flawed pricing approach of the failed or failing clubs?
What are the other &quot;bad business decisions&quot; specifically they made?  Be specific &amp; maybe you can prevent current club owners from making the same mistake.
&lt;i&gt;This place is like poison for successful people. Toxic for the individual who is out there working hard and making a living.&lt;/i&gt;
You&#039;ve got the opportunity to change it.  You have just as much opportunity to post your truth as anyone else.  Restore some balance.  The floor is yours.
&lt;i&gt;Sean Kelly makes a point to highlight failure.&lt;/i&gt;
Not true.  I highlight the challenges people are facing.  Read through and I continuously solicit solutions, insights and positive stories.  Provide them and I&#039;ll print them.

&lt;i&gt;There have been no articles on successful 123 Fit owners on this site.&lt;/i&gt;
I&#039;m happy to offer you a guest post, an interview, whatever format you would like to tell your story, highlight your club, explain what has worked for you in building a successful club, getting and keeping members, etc.  I&#039;ll be happy to do the same for other successful club owners... 123 Fit or otherwise.
I&#039;m a marketing guy, not a bankruptcy attorney.  Solutions are much more engaging to me than despair and hopelessness.  At the end of the day, I want to see franchisees succeed.  If you&#039;ve got information and examples that can help struggling club owners be successful, share it.

Pete, I suggest you consider your own advice.  Instead of complaining about the negativity here, why don&#039;t you take positive action to change it.  I&#039;ve got no allegiance to whiners if there&#039;s a workeable course of action proposed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;they failed because they made bad business and pricing decisions.</i><br />
Pete (anon):  Can you be specific?  What is the pricing strategy of the successful clubs?  What is the flawed pricing approach of the failed or failing clubs?<br />
What are the other &#8220;bad business decisions&#8221; specifically they made?  Be specific &#038; maybe you can prevent current club owners from making the same mistake.<br />
<i>This place is like poison for successful people. Toxic for the individual who is out there working hard and making a living.</i><br />
You&#8217;ve got the opportunity to change it.  You have just as much opportunity to post your truth as anyone else.  Restore some balance.  The floor is yours.<br />
<i>Sean Kelly makes a point to highlight failure.</i><br />
Not true.  I highlight the challenges people are facing.  Read through and I continuously solicit solutions, insights and positive stories.  Provide them and I&#8217;ll print them.</p>
<p><i>There have been no articles on successful 123 Fit owners on this site.</i><br />
I&#8217;m happy to offer you a guest post, an interview, whatever format you would like to tell your story, highlight your club, explain what has worked for you in building a successful club, getting and keeping members, etc.  I&#8217;ll be happy to do the same for other successful club owners&#8230; 123 Fit or otherwise.<br />
I&#8217;m a marketing guy, not a bankruptcy attorney.  Solutions are much more engaging to me than despair and hopelessness.  At the end of the day, I want to see franchisees succeed.  If you&#8217;ve got information and examples that can help struggling club owners be successful, share it.</p>
<p>Pete, I suggest you consider your own advice.  Instead of complaining about the negativity here, why don&#8217;t you take positive action to change it.  I&#8217;ve got no allegiance to whiners if there&#8217;s a workeable course of action proposed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete (anon)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete (anon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The posts you see here are old and innacurate. There are many more than 19 clubs. Many of them are making money.  Some people fail and then try to bring down everyone else. That is the case with many that post on this site. I know these guys. They used to be &quot;friends&quot; and we shared info on our locations. These guys did not fail because of 123 Fit corporate - they failed because they made bad business and pricing decisions. I have seen their posts about how corporate mandated pricing. That is false. Corporate always left pricing to us ... They had price suggestions which many club owners ignored. Despite all the negitive, one sided coverage of this and many other franchises, people continue to go out and work hard and succeed. We are called the devil for doing this or asked to prove it. All sides of the argument are taken by these bloggers depending on what they are trying to convince you of. Some even say the the things I post are from 10 year old 123 Fit brochures when 123 fit has not even been here that long.  This place is like poison for successful people. Toxic for the individual who is out there working hard and making a living.   Sean Kelly makes a point to highlight failure. There have been no articles on successful 123 Fit owners on this site. And successful owners are easy to find - unless you are only looking for failure. Look how many negitive articles there are VS positive ones on any subject. I had dinner last night with a congressman that is working on this bailout bill. My group is lobbyong for something unrelated to franchising or things on this site. But as we talked about the economy what was happening in the financial markets the talk turned to the people who get up everyday and go to work. People that understand we don&#039;t live in a perfect world , but we look for things that are perfect in the world. We are aware of the negitive, but try to make a positive impact. People that don&#039;t make their life mission to bring down other people rather they seek to build others up. Are there people out there on this blog that do that?  Or are there just people that focus on negitive, negitive, negitive. People that call me the damn devil. Wow. I am off my soap box now. Love or hate 123 Fit, believe this - there are many clubs that are successful, the corporate guys are not perfect but have been working to improve their system and support. Research that - writ about that along with all the doom and gloom.  Free speech - you gotta love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The posts you see here are old and innacurate. There are many more than 19 clubs. Many of them are making money.  Some people fail and then try to bring down everyone else. That is the case with many that post on this site. I know these guys. They used to be &#8220;friends&#8221; and we shared info on our locations. These guys did not fail because of 123 Fit corporate &#8211; they failed because they made bad business and pricing decisions. I have seen their posts about how corporate mandated pricing. That is false. Corporate always left pricing to us &#8230; They had price suggestions which many club owners ignored. Despite all the negitive, one sided coverage of this and many other franchises, people continue to go out and work hard and succeed. We are called the devil for doing this or asked to prove it. All sides of the argument are taken by these bloggers depending on what they are trying to convince you of. Some even say the the things I post are from 10 year old 123 Fit brochures when 123 fit has not even been here that long.  This place is like poison for successful people. Toxic for the individual who is out there working hard and making a living.   Sean Kelly makes a point to highlight failure. There have been no articles on successful 123 Fit owners on this site. And successful owners are easy to find &#8211; unless you are only looking for failure. Look how many negitive articles there are VS positive ones on any subject. I had dinner last night with a congressman that is working on this bailout bill. My group is lobbyong for something unrelated to franchising or things on this site. But as we talked about the economy what was happening in the financial markets the talk turned to the people who get up everyday and go to work. People that understand we don&#8217;t live in a perfect world , but we look for things that are perfect in the world. We are aware of the negitive, but try to make a positive impact. People that don&#8217;t make their life mission to bring down other people rather they seek to build others up. Are there people out there on this blog that do that?  Or are there just people that focus on negitive, negitive, negitive. People that call me the damn devil. Wow. I am off my soap box now. Love or hate 123 Fit, believe this &#8211; there are many clubs that are successful, the corporate guys are not perfect but have been working to improve their system and support. Research that &#8211; writ about that along with all the doom and gloom.  Free speech &#8211; you gotta love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beware many lives ruined because they are into selling franchises like their cousin Quiznos.  They do not care if you succeed.  They make their money upfront.  Buyer Beware!  Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beware many lives ruined because they are into selling franchises like their cousin Quiznos.  They do not care if you succeed.  They make their money upfront.  Buyer Beware!  Barbara</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
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		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will sell you mine!!  Send me an email.  Cheap.  Dont open as a 123 fit though.  They suck.  Over 30 clubs have not closed and they only have 19 open.  LIARS.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will sell you mine!!  Send me an email.  Cheap.  Dont open as a 123 fit though.  They suck.  Over 30 clubs have not closed and they only have 19 open.  LIARS&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Fortune Article Spotlights Butterfly Life Franchise Woes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fortune Article Spotlights Butterfly Life Franchise Woes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] February 24th, 2008&#160; George Orwell Returns to Bash 1-2-3 Fit, Butterfly Life Fitness Franchises [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] February 24th, 2008&nbsp; George Orwell Returns to Bash 1-2-3 Fit, Butterfly Life Fitness Franchises [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Olivieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Olivieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since so many of the franchises are going bankrupt, how can I pick up the Life Fitness line used?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since so many of the franchises are going bankrupt, how can I pick up the Life Fitness line used?</p>
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