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iOptron SmartStar Goto AltAz Mount: First Impressions

October 23, 2007 by Tony  
Filed under Astronomy

Ioptron3I’ve had my new mount for a little while now and I thought I’d pass on a few comments about what I think of it so far.

I’ve already described the condition of the box when I received it, and that it did not come with the AC adapter, but the iOptron guys sent it the next week along with an apology that it wasn’t shipped with the mount.

I purchased this primarily as a convenient and portable mount to guide my Coronado PST during the day. This mount requires that you use a Vixen-style dovetail mounting plate and I don’t have one of those yet.

In the meantime, my PST is mounted with one of those generic dovetail plates you get with standard camera tripods. Because of this, my setup was a little wobblier than it would otherwise be. I need to order a generic plate like this to mount the PST more securely.

I haven’t really used it yet for looking at the stars or planets since I don’t own a telescope small enough to mount on it, all of my refractors are a bit too large. This’ll be a solar mount for the time being. The specs claim that you can mount a telescope weighing up to seven pounds.

The punchline is that for $200.00, and for tracking the Sun, I’m pretty happy with what this little guy can do. The tripod legs seem a little shaky but I expected that in this price range.

Eventually I plan to attach the AltAz head to a small 4×4 post dug in the ground so the tripod wobbliness isn’t all that big a deal to me.

Setting it up was pretty easy, just level the tripod (there is a small bubble level), turn it on, enter the correct time and observing location in the handpaddle, and it’s ready to go. The website mentions an optional GPS unit that’ll be available soon to make this part of the setup even easier.

After this, you need to perform a one or two star alignment to get the mount oriented.

Ioptron1What isn’t clear to me, and I couldn’t find in the manual, is what the ‘park’ position is. I’m assuming it’s the configuration shown here, with the telescope tube pointing up and the “south” arrow pointing, ummm, south. After powering on in this position, I was ready to go.

Step one, find the Sun.

When the handpaddle powers up, it comes up in ‘Land’ mode which means you can point the telescope anywhere you want to (using the arrow keys on the paddle) and look at stuff on the horizon or up in the air. No tracking occurs in this position, you just point and look.

IoptronscreenTo get the clock drives going, you have to hit the ‘Enter’ key when the main display is showing (shown at right, click on the image to see a bigger one) to get it into ‘Cele’ mode, which makes the thing track the sky. This is the screen that displays on initial power up. It took me about an hour to figure that out since it wasn’t documented anywhere. Your welcome.

Now that the drive is driving, I need it to point to the Sun. No problem, this is a goto mount after all, right?

Keep in mind that I did not do the one or two star alignment because, well, I can’t see the stars during the day with my Halpha telescope to do that, no alignment procedure could be performed.

So, with the handpaddle in ‘Cele’ mode, I hit the following keys:

Menu->Select and Slew->Planets,Moon,Sun->Sun

And I get the following screen:

Sunisdangerous-1

Yes, yes, yes, of course I want to continue, trust me, I’m a professional. Show me the Sun!

One problem… There’s no way to answer this question. Here’s the rest of the keypad:

Ioptron4

As you can see, there isn’t a ‘Yes’ key and pressing ‘Enter’ just gave me the AltAz coordinates of the Sun. No slewing, it just beeped. I have still not figured out a way to get the mount to slew to the Sun and track it.

I guess it doesn’t think I can be trusted to look at the Sun.

“No soup for you!”

I solved the problem by manually slewing the mount using the arrow keys until the Sun was centered in the eyepiece. Once I got it there, the mount did a pretty good job of keeping the Sun in the FOV.

I tried and tried to get the mount to track at the solar rate instead of sidereal but no amount of coaxing so far has been able to get me there. I only saw that tracking rate appear once when I accidentally had the mount slew to Neptune. When it thought it was looking at the planet, it switched to the solar rate.

I suppose the way I’ll have to get around the slewing issue is to select the Moon when it is up during the day and sync the mount up to that, then maybe it’ll slew towards the Sun. Another way will be to leave the mount outside and set up after performing a two star alignment on it. Then, when the Sun rises, maybe it’ll slew there.

[UPDATE 10/24/07: I figured out my slewing to the Sun problem. I had my time zone set incorrectly on the hand paddle, it was set seven hours AHEAD of Greenwich, England instead of 7 hours BEHIND (which is where I am). Because of this, the mount never thought the Sun was up where I was and it wouldn't slew to it.

Now, finding the Sun is a piece of cake for the mount. I just turn it on, tell it to slew to the Sun and it does. I can get better pointing by periodically syncing the mount to the Sun as the day progresses.

This is a nice mount. It does a great job.]

Overall I like the mount and recommend it. For the money, it has a lot of capability and is very portable. I found the tracking adequate and look forward to it being better when I figure out how to get it to track at the proper rate.

The biggest drawbacks are that the manual is poor and the software is quirky and non-intuitive. Since I’ve only used it on the Sun, I can’t really say much about the database of objects or how accurately it slews to and tracks them.

I’m considering ordering one of their scope packages to see if they would make a good christmas present. I’m particularly intrigued by these.

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Comments

6 Responses to “iOptron SmartStar Goto AltAz Mount: First Impressions”
  1. Edhiker says:

    Just got my S&T – the most interesting ad was for this item.

    My remaining questions are:
    1- How noisy is the drive?
    2- How to get a system that “remembers time/date etc so it is ready to use after just a few seconds” Clocks are real cheap!
    3- Can this $200 system be run by RS232 from Win98 and planetarium program.
    4- typ pointing accuracy.
    5- clutch on axis, both
    6- one or 2 yr warr. (manual refers to 2yr)

    Some tracks from the last 1/2 hour –

    Ioptron Drive – about Company http://www.ioptron.com/News.html
    – mount $199 http://www.ioptron.com/support.aspx?catalog=15 Manual
    main http://www.ioptron.com/products.aspx?subcatalog=17
    review http://www.astronomybuff.com/ioptron-smartstar-goto-altaz-mount-first-impressions/
    and http://www.astronomybuff.com/my-ioptron-altaz-goto-mount-arrived-today/
    info https://www.ioptron.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=1_7&products_id=5
    CloudyNights board about http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:dKikLS7hv8sJ:www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1927801/Main/1419759+iOptron+mount+rerview&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
    ” remembers time/date etc so it is ready to use after just a few seconds.” other product”
    The motors are screeching noisy. http://www.astromart.com/forums/viewpost.asp?forum_post_id=552529&poll_id=&news_id=&page=

    Ed

  2. Billh says:

    I also purchased this mount to use with my ETX90RA. Celestron 80WF and my Orion StarBlast. The mount is very strudy after adding a 1/4″ spacer to raise the spreader. It is smooth and noiseless. It came with the 8403 controller which will not interface with any telescope program like the Sky or Sky Map Pro. For that one needs either 8401 or 8402 comtrollers.
    The databases of the 8403 are not easily searchable as they are ID# related. The only useable database is the Messier one. There is no
    published listing showing the association between ID# and object. The manual needs alot of work to make the unit feasible for use by
    beginning astromers. STILL WITH ALL THIS THE UNIT IS A GOOD BUY. BTW:No A/C power supply was recieved with the unit.

  3. Chris says:

    here is a star list on the website

    http://www.ioptron.com/support.aspx?catalog=15

    By pressing the “ENTER” key, my unit beeps shows the coord and takes me to the sun without any problems. Does it work for you now?

  4. Tony says:

    Hi Chris,

    Yes, it works great now. As I mentioned in the post, I had the wrong timezone entered in the keypad. The mount was thinking I was 7 hours ahead of GMT instead of behind.

    Once I entered the correct zone, it slews right to the sun.

    Nice mount!

  5. My kids bought me the mount as an early Christmas gift. I holds my Vixen 80SS fine.

    Looks to be well made and powerful enough to cruse along with the scope on board.

    Quite pleased as we also have meade and celestron goto’s at our observatory.

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