Just a thought.

How can I simplify this 4u ???

1) Download and read “Merchants of Deception” by Eric Scheibler, an Amway Emerald “loser” who could not be more specific nor informative across 1000 or so pages of painful direct experience. Are you at this pin level yet? If not read and learn from a person who wasted 10 years entertaining the same delusions that you are still buying into.
2) Obtain the true stats on Amway Distributors annual earnings after expenses. Pitiful. This info is in the public domain.
3) Understand that the “system” you advocate (sorry, that you are TOLD is CRUCIAL to your success is the real key to earning megabucks. Sadly, not for you however. This peripheral industry has a MASSIVE captive audience of people like yourself. Do your own research. Treat it as a worthwhile business investment. Start with Dexter Yaeger…This synergistic relationship between SYSTEM and Amway moves billions of pounds worth of product via self-consumption (NOT SELLING….)You will see LITTLE of this revenue, probably NONE after product and SYSTEM expenses. Tell me I’m wrong…Double Dare You!
4) Also understand that there IS such a thing as an insidious, pervasive, ASSIMILATION through constant reinforcement into a cult-mindset. You are already developing signs that you are losing the facility for rational judgement, going by the endlessly recycled on-message Amway tripe that you are spouting. I heard the same self-justifying garbage 20 years ago, especially the Plumber analogy. Why so defensive? Is it because you are scared to contradict your upline, or demotivate your downline? Cant you SEE that this is the very mechanism that misinforms, negates sound judgement and allows the Amway myth to perpetuate over decades?
5) Understand that I have NO alternate MLM product or “opportunity” to promote. I would not touch any MLM based distribution system in this life or the next. My time is too precious to me. This is your frankly pathetic response to a well-intentioned attempt to inform and educate, and buddy, you need to be educated OUT of Amway.
6) Also understand that, once again, this 15 minute response based on FACT and EXPERIENCE constitutes my Good Deed for the Day. If it gets you thinking (freely) it will be worth it. Lay off the CD’s for a few days to gain some clarity!
7) Have a great Christmas and take some time over the break to rethink your life.

And for the “tools” do you think the cost of a plumbers tools aren’t worth it either? that he shouldn’t spend money on the tools?

Lets take any small business start-up. Cost is on the low side 150k. So tell you what, when I “lose” 150k, I’ll think about stopping. But if you honestly think that 140 bucks sign up and 50 bucks a year is expensive for quality products that cost the same as the store, then i question your own thinking.

Actually, here is what i find funny. Whenever anyone has no leg to stand on, their last ditch effort is to question the motives. To try to discredit the people. And that is all you are doing, saying they are deceiving us and pulling one over us to make money off their tools. Would you mind actually backing that up with facts? Why not figure out the cost of the average startup business and the hours that goes into it and the profit of a business, and then compare it to amway. Then post that on these boards.

But really, all you are trying to do is tell people not to trust them, but you do not back it up with anything.

Here, I’ll serve as an example. I heard that Steve Howarth runs a competition program that tries to compete with amway for distribution, so all he is doing is trying to ruin the competition.

There, now you are discredited with no evidence backing you up. So what does it really matter. We all know / think that you must have a competition business that is trying to compete with amway.

I’ll simply put it this way, show me facts, statistics, and comparison to what else is out there. But this has potential to earn as much money as you like, while my software engineering degree will cap out at 200k, at the VERY top and twenty years of experience along with continual education during that entire time. So if I read as often as WWDB suggests, and listen to CDs as often, but instead of listening to building this business I read about software development, I might earn 100th of the earnings of doing the same with amway. That or I could setting for lower class status with a 60k a year earning.

I couldn’t have read a better settence today. I wish everyone could be humble to admit that their effort and time is what brings them everything, in every aspect of their lives. people just dont want to get out of their confort zones. i kind of understand that, i just dont understand why they talk BS about amway, when I just love it trully and deeply. it hurts me that people dont care to learn more and study the opportunity instead of talking about it like it has no value. an IBO has got to be strong to hear certain things… thats why I didnt start yet. getting ready since i was 14!! 18 now, time to start! All success for you! Greetings from Portugal!