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		<title>By: Rhonda</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-297586</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true that for all the clubs that were opened throughout the year only 13 are open today, according to she Shapexpress website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that for all the clubs that were opened throughout the year only 13 are open today, according to she Shapexpress website?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-295939</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are things going to be any better now that Roger Wittenberns and Diversified Health &amp; Fitness have taken over ShapeXpress?

Better for the franchisees, I mean.  I&#039;m sure Mr. Wittenberns will do fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are things going to be any better now that Roger Wittenberns and Diversified Health &#038; Fitness have taken over ShapeXpress?</p>
<p>Better for the franchisees, I mean.  I&#8217;m sure Mr. Wittenberns will do fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-295944</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linden Wood is a washed up network marketing wanna-be who focuses now on scamming people. Its a shame to see how everything this man touches turns to crap. 

Save the blow me comment... I&#039;m allergic to plastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linden Wood is a washed up network marketing wanna-be who focuses now on scamming people. Its a shame to see how everything this man touches turns to crap. </p>
<p>Save the blow me comment&#8230; I&#8217;m allergic to plastic.</p>
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		<title>By: kizzan</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-299093</link>
		<dc:creator>kizzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 05:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree with you there, that both sides should take responsibility. I do have to say that it&#039;s not like &quot;boys in Tulsa&quot; (as it is now coined meaning the old ShapeXpress franchisor), made money. They sold their business just in time to avoid bankruptcy. There was about 15 franchisees who stopped paying them royalties (out of the 30 clubs that are now open), and, as part of the transfer agreement to the new franchisor, they will not have to pay that money back to them.

I guess what I am saying is that when the franchisees hurt, so does the franchisor.

Maybe I just got lucky, maybe I just followed their system even though it was hard, maybe it was a combination of them both, I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can agree with you there, that both sides should take responsibility. I do have to say that it&#8217;s not like &#8220;boys in Tulsa&#8221; (as it is now coined meaning the old ShapeXpress franchisor), made money. They sold their business just in time to avoid bankruptcy. There was about 15 franchisees who stopped paying them royalties (out of the 30 clubs that are now open), and, as part of the transfer agreement to the new franchisor, they will not have to pay that money back to them.</p>
<p>I guess what I am saying is that when the franchisees hurt, so does the franchisor.</p>
<p>Maybe I just got lucky, maybe I just followed their system even though it was hard, maybe it was a combination of them both, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-299099</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kizzan:  I agree about the urge to run and hide.  Many of the less ethical fly by nite cloud merchants count on that - and they can get away selling doomed franchise concepts much longer than they would&#039;ve if franchisees screamed bloody murder if they were sold a bill of goods.

At the same, business owners are always ultimately responsible for the decisions they&#039;ve made.  At the end of the day, no one made me leave my comfy job to own my own business.  One can still take responsibility for their actions without letting the bad guys off the hook for their misdeeds.

Franchisees should take responsibility for seeking a &quot;hot new trend&quot; rather than a proven business that has stood the test of time, and franchisors should take responsibility if they were not honest about the risks, costs or performance they were aware of, and for targeting and &quot;selecting&quot; inexperienced people then blaming them for it later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kizzan:  I agree about the urge to run and hide.  Many of the less ethical fly by nite cloud merchants count on that &#8211; and they can get away selling doomed franchise concepts much longer than they would&#8217;ve if franchisees screamed bloody murder if they were sold a bill of goods.</p>
<p>At the same, business owners are always ultimately responsible for the decisions they&#8217;ve made.  At the end of the day, no one made me leave my comfy job to own my own business.  One can still take responsibility for their actions without letting the bad guys off the hook for their misdeeds.</p>
<p>Franchisees should take responsibility for seeking a &#8220;hot new trend&#8221; rather than a proven business that has stood the test of time, and franchisors should take responsibility if they were not honest about the risks, costs or performance they were aware of, and for targeting and &#8220;selecting&#8221; inexperienced people then blaming them for it later.</p>
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		<title>By: kizzan</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-299107</link>
		<dc:creator>kizzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Sean:

I guess what I am saying is that when the business is starting to fail, the natural thing to do is to run and hide. Nobody wants to face their problems. Nobody wants to follow the system.

I guess that is a mute point now that ShapeXpress has sold to Diversified Health and Fitness. We&#039;ll see if they can change all of the problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Sean:</p>
<p>I guess what I am saying is that when the business is starting to fail, the natural thing to do is to run and hide. Nobody wants to face their problems. Nobody wants to follow the system.</p>
<p>I guess that is a mute point now that ShapeXpress has sold to Diversified Health and Fitness. We&#8217;ll see if they can change all of the problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Linden Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-299879</link>
		<dc:creator>Linden Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Sean!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Sean!</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-299891</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;kizzan wrote:&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;i&gt;The problem is not ShapeXpress, it is that we are in a tough industry. A reasonable and prudent person should have known that before buying a ShapeXpress franchise. The problem is not ShapeXpress.&lt;/i&gt;

kizzan, I&#039;ll chime in here since Linden Wood&#039;s subtle, nuanced use of language might not have gone over the heads of some of the less erudite, reasonable &amp; prudent.

My understanding is that one of the fundamental problems of ShapeXpress and similar women&#039;s express fitness clubs is that the business model is dependent upon predominantly industry newbie franchisees appealing to a female-only demographic of &quot;deconditioned&quot; consumers with a simplified fitness approach and low monthly fees.

Two main problems (which would be especially unforeseen by those new to the industry)  that arose were the glut of new clubs chasing the same consumer, and the low retention rates (caused in part by potatoes returning to their couches, and others graduating to full service clubs).

While these conditions weren&#039;t invented by ShapeXpress, it was a consequence of the concept, positioning and strategy was it not?  I&#039;ve read other factors attributed to the widespread failures of these clubs.  Surprisingly, none of these involved franchisees not working hard enough, or not being committed to the success of their clubs.

While blaming the franchisees is fine, time-tested tradition of many a &#039;zor who graces the franchise graveyard, don&#039;t you think a reasonable and prudent franchisor in a tough industry would only &quot;award&quot; franchises to franchisees who are reasonable &amp; prudent?  Aren&#039;t you saying that the problem was ShapeXpress&#039; franchise sales strategy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>kizzan wrote:</b>  <i>The problem is not ShapeXpress, it is that we are in a tough industry. A reasonable and prudent person should have known that before buying a ShapeXpress franchise. The problem is not ShapeXpress.</i></p>
<p>kizzan, I&#8217;ll chime in here since Linden Wood&#8217;s subtle, nuanced use of language might not have gone over the heads of some of the less erudite, reasonable &#038; prudent.</p>
<p>My understanding is that one of the fundamental problems of ShapeXpress and similar women&#8217;s express fitness clubs is that the business model is dependent upon predominantly industry newbie franchisees appealing to a female-only demographic of &#8220;deconditioned&#8221; consumers with a simplified fitness approach and low monthly fees.</p>
<p>Two main problems (which would be especially unforeseen by those new to the industry)  that arose were the glut of new clubs chasing the same consumer, and the low retention rates (caused in part by potatoes returning to their couches, and others graduating to full service clubs).</p>
<p>While these conditions weren&#8217;t invented by ShapeXpress, it was a consequence of the concept, positioning and strategy was it not?  I&#8217;ve read other factors attributed to the widespread failures of these clubs.  Surprisingly, none of these involved franchisees not working hard enough, or not being committed to the success of their clubs.</p>
<p>While blaming the franchisees is fine, time-tested tradition of many a &#8216;zor who graces the franchise graveyard, don&#8217;t you think a reasonable and prudent franchisor in a tough industry would only &#8220;award&#8221; franchises to franchisees who are reasonable &#038; prudent?  Aren&#8217;t you saying that the problem was ShapeXpress&#8217; franchise sales strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: Linden Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-299885</link>
		<dc:creator>Linden Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kizzan, on behalf of all ShapeXpress franchisees who apparently do not share the same incredible insight and business acumen as you, blow me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kizzan, on behalf of all ShapeXpress franchisees who apparently do not share the same incredible insight and business acumen as you, blow me!</p>
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		<title>By: kizzan</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/is-shapexpress-a-great-fitness-franchise-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-300901</link>
		<dc:creator>kizzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a ShapeXpress franchisee that is making money. It&#039;s not bad for everyone. 

It&#039;s funny, the people mentioned in this article were, at one time on the ShapeXpress &quot;hot list&quot; of franchisees, ones that ShapeXpress wanted you to call. When things are going great, ShapeXpress is awesome, but when they aren&#039;t, it must be that ShapeXpress&#039; business model doesn&#039;t work. I&#039;ve talked to many ShapeXpress franchisees that failed and they will tell me that it is because the business model doesn&#039;t work. Then I ask them what they&#039;ve done (specific things and I can&#039;t share the ShapeXpress avenues of marketing here), and they don&#039;t do them.

The problem is not ShapeXpress, it is that we are in a tough industry. A reasonable and prudent person should have known that before buying a ShapeXpress franchise. The problem is not ShapeXpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a ShapeXpress franchisee that is making money. It&#8217;s not bad for everyone. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, the people mentioned in this article were, at one time on the ShapeXpress &#8220;hot list&#8221; of franchisees, ones that ShapeXpress wanted you to call. When things are going great, ShapeXpress is awesome, but when they aren&#8217;t, it must be that ShapeXpress&#8217; business model doesn&#8217;t work. I&#8217;ve talked to many ShapeXpress franchisees that failed and they will tell me that it is because the business model doesn&#8217;t work. Then I ask them what they&#8217;ve done (specific things and I can&#8217;t share the ShapeXpress avenues of marketing here), and they don&#8217;t do them.</p>
<p>The problem is not ShapeXpress, it is that we are in a tough industry. A reasonable and prudent person should have known that before buying a ShapeXpress franchise. The problem is not ShapeXpress.</p>
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