Comments on: No Shoes. No Hands. No Service… At McDonald’s http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/ Sports News - Tech Reviews - Entertainment - Life Tips for EveryJoe Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:35:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sean Kelly http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305419 Sean Kelly Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:59:06 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305419 Actually, the one I was thinking of was the Jack in the Box commercial that uses little people to promote their mini sirloin burgers. I could understand outrage from little people on that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xXkmvrT_e8 I understand how you'd be upset with the Burger King commercial, though I don't think they were trying to refer to actual people with disabilities. But I understand your point and am sorry thay you have to be subjected to messages like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEyOOfdozsM If you want to get your message out, I'll be happy to help you. Email me at seankelly[at sign]ideafarm.net. Actually, the one I was thinking of was the Jack in the Box commercial that uses little people to promote their mini sirloin burgers. I could understand outrage from little people on that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xXkmvrT_e8

I understand how you’d be upset with the Burger King commercial, though I don’t think they were trying to refer to actual people with disabilities. But I understand your point and am sorry thay you have to be subjected to messages like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEyOOfdozsM

If you want to get your message out, I’ll be happy to help you. Email me at seankelly[at sign]ideafarm.net.

]]> By: DAWN LARSON http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305412 DAWN LARSON Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:29:00 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305412 Sean: I never seen the little people one. Im talking about the little hands one. Im not thinking of suing them, but must admit it sickened me! Its WRONG! Whats next a legless vet rolling across the street to buy a big hot an juicy pound of sizzling Mc Rotten ? Its sick and morely WRONG! And YES I would love nothing more than to really speak my mind on this nonsense! This is supposed to be a free country, ya know, like having rights? But it all seems to be a joke! We as Americans are the most discriminating people there is! And not just about race either! The rules are NOT fare and equal! Some one needs to say some thing! Sean:
I never seen the little people one. Im talking about the little hands one. Im not thinking of suing them, but must admit it sickened me! Its WRONG! Whats next a legless vet rolling across the street to buy a big hot an juicy pound of sizzling Mc Rotten ? Its sick and morely WRONG! And YES I would love nothing more than to really speak my mind on this nonsense! This is supposed to be a free country, ya know, like having rights? But it all seems to be a joke! We as Americans are the most discriminating people there is! And not just about race either! The rules are NOT fare and equal! Some one needs to say some thing!

]]> By: Sean Kelly http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305424 Sean Kelly Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:55:50 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305424 Dawn: I assume you're referring to the Burger King commercial with little people as actors? I only saw it once. I was pretty shocked by it. I thought it was really repulsive and demeaning. I would not be critical of a lawsuit against them for demeaning little people. Right now several fast food chains are going out of their way to cause controversy so that they can get attention and be talked about - even if it's negative. I think BK was intentionally trying to be offensive to create buzz. But I thought it was really in bad taste and, worse, sends a message to Burger King employees that it's OK to laugh at little people's expense - and maybe even the disabled. If you look at McDonald's advertising, it is much more about building a family-oriented brand that shows respect for customers. I don't believe they would have resorted to this kind of low-life gimmickry and attack on a minority group just to get attention. Dawn, by the way, what did you think about my settlement idea? Dawn:

I assume you’re referring to the Burger King commercial with little people as actors? I only saw it once. I was pretty shocked by it. I thought it was really repulsive and demeaning.

I would not be critical of a lawsuit against them for demeaning little people. Right now several fast food chains are going out of their way to cause controversy so that they can get attention and be talked about – even if it’s negative. I think BK was intentionally trying to be offensive to create buzz. But I thought it was really in bad taste and, worse, sends a message to Burger King employees that it’s OK to laugh at little people’s expense – and maybe even the disabled.

If you look at McDonald’s advertising, it is much more about building a family-oriented brand that shows respect for customers. I don’t believe they would have resorted to this kind of low-life gimmickry and attack on a minority group just to get attention.

Dawn, by the way, what did you think about my settlement idea?

]]> By: DAWN LARSON http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305422 DAWN LARSON Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:27:40 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305422 So Sean what do ya think this guy would say about the new Burger King commercial? Talk about CO ignorance! Perfect example! So Sean what do ya think this guy would say about the new Burger King commercial? Talk about CO ignorance! Perfect example!

]]> By: Sean Kelly http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305426 Sean Kelly Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:35:21 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305426 For practical purposes, people don't sue McDonald's they sue McDonald's insurance company. Dawn's lawyers would not sue the individuals responsible for their atrocious and reprehensible actions because they do not have business insurance that would pay a settlement or judgement. If Dawn wins a settlement, which she likely will (but not for $4M), it will most likely be covered by their insurance. That's why her premise of teaching McDonald's a lesson, in my opinion, is flawed. Here's a better solution: McDonald's should hire Dawn Larson as an internal speaker and spokesperson. Pay her, say, $150K per year to speak to McDonald's employees and educate them about what it's like to live, work and shop with a disability. She could change attitudes toward disabled customers and coworkers, sensitize people, instruct them and inspire them. She could appear in company training videos and speak at regional meetings and the national convention. Rather than paying a settlement, hire Dawn's attorney to consult on the disability laws and legal issues facing McDonald's franchisees and their employees. Motivate McDonald's to improve by turning negative press into a positive Internet-based PR campaign. In fact, I know just the guy to promote the project... For practical purposes, people don’t sue McDonald’s they sue McDonald’s insurance company. Dawn’s lawyers would not sue the individuals responsible for their atrocious and reprehensible actions because they do not have business insurance that would pay a settlement or judgement. If Dawn wins a settlement, which she likely will (but not for $4M), it will most likely be covered by their insurance. That’s why her premise of teaching McDonald’s a lesson, in my opinion, is flawed.

Here’s a better solution: McDonald’s should hire Dawn Larson as an internal speaker and spokesperson. Pay her, say, $150K per year to speak to McDonald’s employees and educate them about what it’s like to live, work and shop with a disability. She could change attitudes toward disabled customers and coworkers, sensitize people, instruct them and inspire them. She could appear in company training videos and speak at regional meetings and the national convention.

Rather than paying a settlement, hire Dawn’s attorney to consult on the disability laws and legal issues facing McDonald’s franchisees and their employees.

Motivate McDonald’s to improve by turning negative press into a positive Internet-based PR campaign. In fact, I know just the guy to promote the project…

]]> By: DAWN LARSON http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305291 DAWN LARSON Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:06:38 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305291 To BC: And Dawn, while I have your attention, I have a couple questions for you… What ever happened with your lawsuit? Did you win? Or are you allowed to talk about it? And also, did you type your comments with your feet? Just wondering…. you asked.... The lawsuit is still moving forward, very slowly though! And yes I am typing this with my toes. I just want to thank you very much for your support! To BC:
And Dawn, while I have your attention, I have a couple questions for you…

What ever happened with your lawsuit? Did you win? Or are you allowed to talk about it?

And also, did you type your comments with your feet? Just wondering…. you asked….

The lawsuit is still moving forward, very slowly though! And yes I am typing this with my toes. I just want to thank you very much for your support!

]]> By: DAWN LARSON http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305292 DAWN LARSON Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:39:28 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305292 To Kris Why do you make your wrong assumptions? You are so far off its funny! And YES discrimination is a BIG deal! Thats why we have laws. Would YOU like to be denied something that you paid for because of your ill attitude or the way YOU look? To Kris
Why do you make your wrong assumptions? You are so far off its funny! And YES discrimination is a BIG deal! Thats why we have laws. Would YOU like to be denied something that you paid for because of your ill attitude or the way YOU look?

]]> By: Kris http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-305101 Kris Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:50:59 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-305101 i think you guys are taking it out of context to the matter at hand. basically Mcdonalds employees messed up they made fun of the handicapped because they were shocked at what they saw and as usual with how teens are and even adults in rural areas they dont give a flyin f*ck about other people then themselves. yes the mcdonalds corp is to blame because they employed the people who are selfless idiots who would rather pick on the people less then them so they feel alright about themselves later on. Ive worked with the mcdonalds corp before and ive seen how it goes down its dirtier then a homeless person and they are just lookin for a paycheck. honestly the lady should have said i have no arms and use my feet for a way to get around and the employee should have responded as an adult and just took the payment gave the food and held the comments for their own time. you people bring up justice files on discrimination like its a big f*ckin deal but seriously people do this stuff because they know they can get away with a pretty check and a fairy tale ending. like the lady and the hot coffee(dumbass on her part) and the wendys chili. they all do it life goes on. i think you guys are taking it out of context to the matter at hand. basically Mcdonalds employees messed up they made fun of the handicapped because they were shocked at what they saw and as usual with how teens are and even adults in rural areas they dont give a flyin f*ck about other people then themselves. yes the mcdonalds corp is to blame because they employed the people who are selfless idiots who would rather pick on the people less then them so they feel alright about themselves later on. Ive worked with the mcdonalds corp before and ive seen how it goes down its dirtier then a homeless person and they are just lookin for a paycheck. honestly the lady should have said i have no arms and use my feet for a way to get around and the employee should have responded as an adult and just took the payment gave the food and held the comments for their own time. you people bring up justice files on discrimination like its a big f*ckin deal but seriously people do this stuff because they know they can get away with a pretty check and a fairy tale ending. like the lady and the hot coffee(dumbass on her part) and the wendys chili. they all do it life goes on.

]]> By: Sean Kelly http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-304762 Sean Kelly Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:42:24 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-304762 Dawn: I tried to email you but it came back with the message "User mailbox exceeds allowed size:" Can you email me at seankelly[at]ideafarm.net? Or let me know if I can resend? Thanks, Sean Dawn:
I tried to email you but it came back with the message “User mailbox exceeds allowed size:”
Can you email me at seankelly[at]ideafarm.net? Or let me know if I can resend?
Thanks,
Sean

]]> By: Sean Kelly http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-304715 Sean Kelly Thu, 28 May 2009 20:26:18 +0000 http://www.franchisepick.com/no-shoes-no-hands-no-service-at-mcdonalds/#comment-304715 <b>Dawn Larson wrote:</b> <i>You have my picture up with all your nasty quotes like TOE JAM and MCDONALDS DOESNT LIKE IT WHEN YOU WOLF DOWN THEIR BURGERS WITH YOUR FEET! That is very unfair and offensive. That is where I think you are going to far.</i> You are right. I am sorry that I offended you. I guess I didn't think about the person in a national news story actually reading my humble little blog... or caring what I had to say. I apologize sincerely. And, as I said before, I am in awe of your accomplishments, your spirit, and your ability to overcome more adversity than few will ever know. That said, if I hadn't used the provocative (if crass) style I did, I doubt we'd still be generating comments on it 2 years later. So, being a bit offensive helped get your story out... and continues to get it out. My style was not so much an attack on you as on these pious phonies who read these stories and pretend to agree but never really spent the time to actually think, or care, about the issue. I might not agree with you, but I actually am engaging in discussion not just saying "poor women! bad McDonald's!" then eating there anyway. <b>Dawn Larson wrote:</b> <i>I would love nothing more to tell you all the facts but can not at the moment. I can tell tell you though that what I am after is equal rights for all handicapped people!</i> Guess what... that's not what your lawyer is after. Your lawyer is after monetary damages... that's all. That's what they do; that's their job. Yet that's not what your goal is, so ultimately you will not be successful, even if you win. The first instance where your lawyer's interest deviated from yours was with who you sued. You didn't sue the person or persons who were to blame - you sued the entity with the money. You wanted to make a statement but you won't because McDs'll pay your settlement from insurance and eventually pass it on to the consumer. The next instance where your lawyer's interest deviates from yours is that she'll tell you not to discuss the case or it could be detrimental in court. So, here you are suing so you can publicize this injustice, only you're not allowed to discuss it because it might weaken the monetary settlement. See the problem? The final instance will be when your attorney explains that a gag order and nondisclosure are a requirement of the settlement. What do you think McDonald's will be willing to pay a large sum of money for? Your silence. Do you really think they are going to pay without requiring you to never speak publicly about it again? Do you see the conflict? I was wrong about your motives, I'll admit. After reading your comments I see it's not about the money for you. But the lawsuit IS about the money, and that's your lawyer's priority - or else she wouldn't do it on contingency. You might have gone into it thinking you were championing the cause, but in the end, IMHO, you're just angling going to be offered hush money and meanwhile a couple of insensitive idiots are off somewhere else without being held accountable for their despicable attitudes and behavior. Please invite your attorney to come correct me if I'm wrong. I'll apologize to her if I am... but I don't think so. Dawn Larson wrote: You have my picture up with all your nasty quotes like TOE JAM and MCDONALDS DOESNT LIKE IT WHEN YOU WOLF DOWN THEIR BURGERS WITH YOUR FEET! That is very unfair and offensive. That is where I think you are going to far.
You are right. I am sorry that I offended you. I guess I didn’t think about the person in a national news story actually reading my humble little blog… or caring what I had to say.
I apologize sincerely. And, as I said before, I am in awe of your accomplishments, your spirit, and your ability to overcome more adversity than few will ever know.
That said, if I hadn’t used the provocative (if crass) style I did, I doubt we’d still be generating comments on it 2 years later. So, being a bit offensive helped get your story out… and continues to get it out.
My style was not so much an attack on you as on these pious phonies who read these stories and pretend to agree but never really spent the time to actually think, or care, about the issue. I might not agree with you, but I actually am engaging in discussion not just saying “poor women! bad McDonald’s!” then eating there anyway.

Dawn Larson wrote: I would love nothing more to tell you all the facts but can not at the moment. I can tell tell you though that what I am after is equal rights for all handicapped people!
Guess what… that’s not what your lawyer is after. Your lawyer is after monetary damages… that’s all. That’s what they do; that’s their job. Yet that’s not what your goal is, so ultimately you will not be successful, even if you win.
The first instance where your lawyer’s interest deviated from yours was with who you sued. You didn’t sue the person or persons who were to blame – you sued the entity with the money. You wanted to make a statement but you won’t because McDs’ll pay your settlement from insurance and eventually pass it on to the consumer.
The next instance where your lawyer’s interest deviates from yours is that she’ll tell you not to discuss the case or it could be detrimental in court. So, here you are suing so you can publicize this injustice, only you’re not allowed to discuss it because it might weaken the monetary settlement. See the problem?
The final instance will be when your attorney explains that a gag order and nondisclosure are a requirement of the settlement. What do you think McDonald’s will be willing to pay a large sum of money for? Your silence. Do you really think they are going to pay without requiring you to never speak publicly about it again?
Do you see the conflict? I was wrong about your motives, I’ll admit. After reading your comments I see it’s not about the money for you. But the lawsuit IS about the money, and that’s your lawyer’s priority – or else she wouldn’t do it on contingency. You might have gone into it thinking you were championing the cause, but in the end, IMHO, you’re just angling going to be offered hush money and meanwhile a couple of insensitive idiots are off somewhere else without being held accountable for their despicable attitudes and behavior.

Please invite your attorney to come correct me if I’m wrong. I’ll apologize to her if I am… but I don’t think so.

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