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	<title>Comments on: Pity the Poor Nonprofit, a Damsel in Distress if E&#8217;er There Was One</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Durso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Durso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed and JP: Welcome to the discussion, and thanks for your very interesting thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed and JP: Welcome to the discussion, and thanks for your very interesting thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonprofit lipstick on a startup pig? &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonprofit lipstick on a startup pig? &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lipstick on a startup&#160;pig?  Jump to Comments In the midst of a conversation on the 501(c)Files among skeptics about &#8220;venture philanthropy,&#8221; the following comment appeared, suggesting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lipstick on a startup&nbsp;pig?  Jump to Comments In the midst of a conversation on the 501(c)Files among skeptics about &#8220;venture philanthropy,&#8221; the following comment appeared, suggesting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JP Burnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP Burnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What reporters should be questioning about Venture Philanthropy is whether it&#039;s one of the last few tax right offs or tax advantageous schemes--or ways to help buddies get rid of dogs or other unwanted investments. Here&#039;s how it works, and the article regarding ePals, which mentions an investment by National Geographic, makes one think of such a strategy. It happens something like this, a non profit like Nat&#039;l Geoph, and many others like it, creates for-profit entities to generate revenue to help support the non-profit parent. But such arrangements open up more possibilities. So lets say a for profit company, a startup in technology, needs an investment from a known brand, a respected brand, to make it attractive to other investors. But the known-brand knows it won&#039;t get anything for its investment in the startup. So the primary backer of the startup, a VC, donates a few million to the name-brand&#039;s parent non-profit. The brand then turns around and invests nearly the same amount into the startup.......lots of favors all around. There should be far more critical analysis of what&#039;s going on with venture philanthropy. Yes it can do a lot of good. But, yes it opens up more schemes to help a few buddies out. Not saying that&#039;s what happened with anyone mentioned in the NYTimes venture phil story, but  that story wasn&#039;t really thorough was it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What reporters should be questioning about Venture Philanthropy is whether it&#8217;s one of the last few tax right offs or tax advantageous schemes&#8211;or ways to help buddies get rid of dogs or other unwanted investments. Here&#8217;s how it works, and the article regarding ePals, which mentions an investment by National Geographic, makes one think of such a strategy. It happens something like this, a non profit like Nat&#8217;l Geoph, and many others like it, creates for-profit entities to generate revenue to help support the non-profit parent. But such arrangements open up more possibilities. So lets say a for profit company, a startup in technology, needs an investment from a known brand, a respected brand, to make it attractive to other investors. But the known-brand knows it won&#8217;t get anything for its investment in the startup. So the primary backer of the startup, a VC, donates a few million to the name-brand&#8217;s parent non-profit. The brand then turns around and invests nearly the same amount into the startup&#8230;&#8230;.lots of favors all around. There should be far more critical analysis of what&#8217;s going on with venture philanthropy. Yes it can do a lot of good. But, yes it opens up more schemes to help a few buddies out. Not saying that&#8217;s what happened with anyone mentioned in the NYTimes venture phil story, but  that story wasn&#8217;t really thorough was it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jed Whale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed Whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing out that the NYT&#039;s piece was a low moment in that paper&#039;s history. The reporter bent over first and then swallowed what was charmingly pumped into him.  Or else, an editor hacked the piece and lost any ressemblance  of objectivity. Am I the only technologist who read the piece, then went to the ePals and intobooks sites and then wondered what I had just read about after looking under the hood? Nothing made sense. So what gives? The elearning world doesn&#039;t go by the NYTimes biz section. Who does? People and companies who buy ads and potential acquirers.  The angle of that story was pitched...it was misdirection, a manipulation of the Times, to have a piece written under the guise of Venture Philanthropy. But the real story is that it was a story, a message meant to impress a small world of former AOL executives and potential buyers. Eight years after the AOLTW merger, and here we go again...same MO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out that the NYT&#8217;s piece was a low moment in that paper&#8217;s history. The reporter bent over first and then swallowed what was charmingly pumped into him.  Or else, an editor hacked the piece and lost any ressemblance  of objectivity. Am I the only technologist who read the piece, then went to the ePals and intobooks sites and then wondered what I had just read about after looking under the hood? Nothing made sense. So what gives? The elearning world doesn&#8217;t go by the NYTimes biz section. Who does? People and companies who buy ads and potential acquirers.  The angle of that story was pitched&#8230;it was misdirection, a manipulation of the Times, to have a piece written under the guise of Venture Philanthropy. But the real story is that it was a story, a message meant to impress a small world of former AOL executives and potential buyers. Eight years after the AOLTW merger, and here we go again&#8230;same MO.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Durso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Durso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading, NP. Been a tough couple of weeks for the Times, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading, NP. Been a tough couple of weeks for the Times, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Nonprofiteer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonprofiteer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for highlighting the content-free nature of this article--which didn&#039;t merely reiterate the mindless worship of the for-profit sector but acted like it was brand new.  It&#039;s a shame the New York Times has such difficulty finding anyone to put on the nonprofit beat who actually understands the sector s/he&#039;s covering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for highlighting the content-free nature of this article&#8211;which didn&#8217;t merely reiterate the mindless worship of the for-profit sector but acted like it was brand new.  It&#8217;s a shame the New York Times has such difficulty finding anyone to put on the nonprofit beat who actually understands the sector s/he&#8217;s covering.</p>
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