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		<title>By: TOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really a good discussion (and bad insult).

C.R. and Ng Way Huck, could please email me at d3wangga@yahoo.com since I do not know your email? I would like to know more about HYIP (perhaps, you might teach me about HYIP?)

He who knows that he knows is a master, Follow him
He who knows that he does not know can be taught, teach him
He who does not know that he knows is asleep, wake him up
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really a good discussion (and bad insult).</p>
<p>C.R. and Ng Way Huck, could please email me at <a href="mailto:d3wangga@yahoo.com">d3wangga@yahoo.com</a> since I do not know your email? I would like to know more about HYIP (perhaps, you might teach me about HYIP?)</p>
<p>He who knows that he knows is a master, Follow him<br />
He who knows that he does not know can be taught, teach him<br />
He who does not know that he knows is asleep, wake him up<br />
He who does not know that he does not know is a fool, leave him!</p>
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		<title>By: ricardo - MO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ricardo - MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you heard of the Pigeon King investment plan.  The farmer buys several hundred pigeon pairs at $500 per pair and PKI agrees to buy back the offspring for $50 each.  The math shows this to be highly profitable.  Is this an investment opportunity or a Ponzi scheme?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard of the Pigeon King investment plan.  The farmer buys several hundred pigeon pairs at $500 per pair and PKI agrees to buy back the offspring for $50 each.  The math shows this to be highly profitable.  Is this an investment opportunity or a Ponzi scheme?</p>
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		<title>By: Ng Way Huck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ng Way Huck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I’d definitely won’t be joining A3 Union with $10,000
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I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I&#039;d definitely wont be joining A3 Union with $10,000 if it&#039;s a ponzi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I’d definitely won’t be joining A3 Union with $10,000<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Corrections:<br />
I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I&#8217;d definitely wont be joining A3 Union with $10,000 if it&#8217;s a ponzi.</p>
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		<title>By: Ng Way Huck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ng Way Huck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys guys !! Are you all crazy?

HYIP IS just a category, it can involved ponzi, pyramid, or real company.

High yield investments program stated clearly,
You can get high profits from it. NOT always game and ponzi. Heard of google adsense, well I tell you it&#039;s not HYIP but I considered it as one. Why? You put ads on a websites, if that websites of yours got no traffic you spend to promote it right? That spending is investments. Therefore, &quot;HYIP&quot;. Most elite HYIP investors will only spot the real investments, and yes it exist. 80% are scams / ponzi, not 99% which is a make-believe.

Let me state one thing clear, you CAN and WILL BE ABLE to make 200% profits in 3 months if you&#039;re professional and you invest in High Yield stocks everyday. It is possible and you CAN do it.
A3 Union = Assistance 247 Ltd
If anyone don&#039;t believe it, go search on Yahoo you&#039;ll find this company. It isn&#039;t scam. If they are, do you think they can issue Mastercard? If they don&#039;t issue it for real, do you think they can even USE the logo? No.

Some of you seems to argue with smart language or facts. But let me tell all of you clear, if any of you think A3 Union is ponzi, PROVE IT. Any proof?
As some of those who said A3 Union is ponzi, I bet you can&#039;t prove it. We need proofs to take these days, not just &quot;3-inches tongue&quot;

A3 Union is paying and not ponzi. If someone don&#039;t believe it, leave it. We don&#039;t need extra overload on A3 withdrawal server anyway. We can withdraw more easily without any strange offender surfing it.

I&#039;m one of the elite investors who trained some amateur into pro-investors of HYIP. I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I&#039;d definitely won&#039;t be joining A3 Union with $10,000

Although I agreed it&#039;s very hard to withdraw from A3 Union I still manages to withdraw alot. More than my principal. Anyone wanna miss the ride? Bye then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys guys !! Are you all crazy?</p>
<p>HYIP IS just a category, it can involved ponzi, pyramid, or real company.</p>
<p>High yield investments program stated clearly,<br />
You can get high profits from it. NOT always game and ponzi. Heard of google adsense, well I tell you it&#8217;s not HYIP but I considered it as one. Why? You put ads on a websites, if that websites of yours got no traffic you spend to promote it right? That spending is investments. Therefore, &#8220;HYIP&#8221;. Most elite HYIP investors will only spot the real investments, and yes it exist. 80% are scams / ponzi, not 99% which is a make-believe.</p>
<p>Let me state one thing clear, you CAN and WILL BE ABLE to make 200% profits in 3 months if you&#8217;re professional and you invest in High Yield stocks everyday. It is possible and you CAN do it.<br />
A3 Union = Assistance 247 Ltd<br />
If anyone don&#8217;t believe it, go search on Yahoo you&#8217;ll find this company. It isn&#8217;t scam. If they are, do you think they can issue Mastercard? If they don&#8217;t issue it for real, do you think they can even USE the logo? No.</p>
<p>Some of you seems to argue with smart language or facts. But let me tell all of you clear, if any of you think A3 Union is ponzi, PROVE IT. Any proof?<br />
As some of those who said A3 Union is ponzi, I bet you can&#8217;t prove it. We need proofs to take these days, not just &#8220;3-inches tongue&#8221;</p>
<p>A3 Union is paying and not ponzi. If someone don&#8217;t believe it, leave it. We don&#8217;t need extra overload on A3 withdrawal server anyway. We can withdraw more easily without any strange offender surfing it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the elite investors who trained some amateur into pro-investors of HYIP. I know exactly what is HYIP and how ponzi works and I&#8217;d definitely won&#8217;t be joining A3 Union with $10,000</p>
<p>Although I agreed it&#8217;s very hard to withdraw from A3 Union I still manages to withdraw alot. More than my principal. Anyone wanna miss the ride? Bye then.</p>
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		<title>By: C.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have gained a complete adversity against any kind of investment that implies some risk ... I dont blame you, its completly normal with all the SCAMS there are and I completly agree with your last words.

The question is, you are assuming everything is a complete SCAM... maybe it is...but its possible even with 100% of opportunities being scams, to make money out of them. Simply assume in the beggining this risk and count with it! And I dont want to change your or anyone else mind, in fact, I advise everyone whos doesn&#039;t have enough information to dont throw away its money in any investment until you know enough  and accept the risks you are taking.

Batman answer: Neither of the brothers is smart.
 
Not doing anything can&#039;t be said to be smart. Its being amorph and not taking advantage of what you learn&#039;t. Just staying in your confort zone forever won&#039;t get you in trouble, but also wont get you anywhere. Keep the money under your bed. Its safe there! But what it does for you? Zero, Niente, Nada.

Risking ALL the money in one thing is even far away from being smart. TIP for EVERYTHING in life: DIVERSIFY the risk! This means, in this case, you dont put all your money in one place. That is completly dumb, be it done here or in the stock market or everywhere. Just try to put all your money in your favorite stock and see what happens.  

Example of smart answer would be: Ok, now I know what a scam is, I know how to identify one in general. Or I can assume every online opportunity is a scam and its a question of timming if you loose or win money. Why not develop a strategy that allows me, investing with small quantities of money, to search for opportunities (risky ones, yes) online that pottentially might work? I&#039;ll put like, 50$ aside from my moth/year income (money I would someother way waste in useless things and lose anyway) for this and try and see what its possible, assuming from the beggining I will probably lose this money, thus completly lowering my expectations, but at the same time, being EXTREMLY selective where I put the money. Worst case scenario is: I loose $50. Best case, I can double this money in some months.  Of course, if you are risk adverse, this is no place for you, put your money in a bank, with luck you can get up to 4%/year, not risking anything. But even 4%/year is only something usefull if you have a HUGE bank account (and in that case you can easily request a higher interest rate). But even that is smarter than doing nothing.

Ah, one more thing, there are no SYSTEMS. You always risk your money. Even in a bank, you have a risk, really small one, but its there, always! Any bank can, at any time, declare its finnancially broke and you lose your money! You think its impossible? I give you an example scenario: any bank would bankrupt if 80% (or even lower percentages) of the money from clients was requested to be withdrawed at the same time! 

The only REAL safe place is under your bed! 


Adressing your &quot;Drugs question&quot; now:

Drugs ARE NOT OK and that comparisson is not a good one. You dont invest in drugs, you dont &quot;play&quot; drugs. Once you buy drugs, you never see that money back again. the objective is getting an illegal product. It&#039;s a completly different issue here. 

And yes, I must agree with you Mark, its a waste of time writting in here, but its fun and I&#039;m not even risking anything. Besides, I&#039;m giving you free content for your blog to rank higher in google (and this means more proffit for you from addsense ;) - cool - you are (or your blog program is - if thats the case, I advise you to change it to another one where you get part of the revenue)  indirectly making profit from the mere existence of HYPS !!! Thats being smart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have gained a complete adversity against any kind of investment that implies some risk &#8230; I dont blame you, its completly normal with all the SCAMS there are and I completly agree with your last words.</p>
<p>The question is, you are assuming everything is a complete SCAM&#8230; maybe it is&#8230;but its possible even with 100% of opportunities being scams, to make money out of them. Simply assume in the beggining this risk and count with it! And I dont want to change your or anyone else mind, in fact, I advise everyone whos doesn&#8217;t have enough information to dont throw away its money in any investment until you know enough  and accept the risks you are taking.</p>
<p>Batman answer: Neither of the brothers is smart.</p>
<p>Not doing anything can&#8217;t be said to be smart. Its being amorph and not taking advantage of what you learn&#8217;t. Just staying in your confort zone forever won&#8217;t get you in trouble, but also wont get you anywhere. Keep the money under your bed. Its safe there! But what it does for you? Zero, Niente, Nada.</p>
<p>Risking ALL the money in one thing is even far away from being smart. TIP for EVERYTHING in life: DIVERSIFY the risk! This means, in this case, you dont put all your money in one place. That is completly dumb, be it done here or in the stock market or everywhere. Just try to put all your money in your favorite stock and see what happens.  </p>
<p>Example of smart answer would be: Ok, now I know what a scam is, I know how to identify one in general. Or I can assume every online opportunity is a scam and its a question of timming if you loose or win money. Why not develop a strategy that allows me, investing with small quantities of money, to search for opportunities (risky ones, yes) online that pottentially might work? I&#8217;ll put like, 50$ aside from my moth/year income (money I would someother way waste in useless things and lose anyway) for this and try and see what its possible, assuming from the beggining I will probably lose this money, thus completly lowering my expectations, but at the same time, being EXTREMLY selective where I put the money. Worst case scenario is: I loose $50. Best case, I can double this money in some months.  Of course, if you are risk adverse, this is no place for you, put your money in a bank, with luck you can get up to 4%/year, not risking anything. But even 4%/year is only something usefull if you have a HUGE bank account (and in that case you can easily request a higher interest rate). But even that is smarter than doing nothing.</p>
<p>Ah, one more thing, there are no SYSTEMS. You always risk your money. Even in a bank, you have a risk, really small one, but its there, always! Any bank can, at any time, declare its finnancially broke and you lose your money! You think its impossible? I give you an example scenario: any bank would bankrupt if 80% (or even lower percentages) of the money from clients was requested to be withdrawed at the same time! </p>
<p>The only REAL safe place is under your bed! </p>
<p>Adressing your &#8220;Drugs question&#8221; now:</p>
<p>Drugs ARE NOT OK and that comparisson is not a good one. You dont invest in drugs, you dont &#8220;play&#8221; drugs. Once you buy drugs, you never see that money back again. the objective is getting an illegal product. It&#8217;s a completly different issue here. </p>
<p>And yes, I must agree with you Mark, its a waste of time writting in here, but its fun and I&#8217;m not even risking anything. Besides, I&#8217;m giving you free content for your blog to rank higher in google (and this means more proffit for you from addsense ;) &#8211; cool &#8211; you are (or your blog program is &#8211; if thats the case, I advise you to change it to another one where you get part of the revenue)  indirectly making profit from the mere existence of HYPS !!! Thats being smart!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CR, thanks for your comments, but clearly...you have some other unresolved issues at hand you need to work on!

Riddle me this batman:
Two brothers awake one morning.  Now, one brother was blessed with brains and his IQ is very high.  One brother missed out and while he&#039;s a good guy, he&#039;s not going to college and is not considered smart, he IS considered stupid.   

Both brothers share one computer, over the weekend, they stumble onto the A3union web site.  Now, one is stupid and one is ignorant. The stupid brother says, &quot;Let&#039;s invest and make big money&quot;.

The ignorant but smart brother says, &quot;hmmm, I&#039;ve never heard of or seen such an investment possibility, let me look around and see what others are saying&quot;  They both then query &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=a3union&quot;&gt;A3union&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, in Google, and find in the number 8 position, my posts showing that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digitalmoneyworld.com/a3union-and-other-classic-multi-million-dollar-ponzi-scams-pt1/&quot;&gt;a3union is a scam ponzi&lt;/a&gt;.  The smarter brother reads the information and understands that this size return is not possible from a bunch of strangers on the Internet and finally says, &quot;Now I understand what a HYIP Ponzi is, I&#039;ve seen what happens to investors&#039; money and I will NOT send my hard earned money. I now understand and choose not to get scammed&quot;

The first stupid brother says, &quot;...but their web seems really nice, this guy even says he got paid well and they have a shiny debit card, I think it sounds good, I&#039;m sending in ALL my money&quot;

There are two groups of people surfing the Internet who send money into these scams, the first group is smart but IGNORANT, meaning they just have not seen this before and don&#039;t understand what is happening.  Like paying $5 at the Circus to see the two headed lady, the first time its a thrill, but once you find out that second head is just a mirror reflection, you won&#039;t spend that $5 ever again.  Once they read about how the scam works, see all the others who have lost their money  and they can easily lose all their hard earned money, the ignorant surfer will pass and NOT throw their money away [invest].  This is the group of people I hope is reading my posts.  This is my target audience.

The second group of people, are just plain stupid, they are told its a scam, they are shown how the scam works, they are introduced to thousand of other who lost money BUT they continue to send in their money expecting big returns and claiming they have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digitalmoneyworld.com/the-hyip-miraclei-want-to-believe/&quot;&gt;system&lt;/a&gt; for recognizing that THIS HYIP, this one is a real investment and I&#039;m going to make money.  These are the STUPID people, I can&#039;t help the stupid people and that group is not my target audience when I post.

When you -CR- comment here, with your excuses and &#039;expert HYIP&#039; knowledge, you are wasting your time and boring me.  I&#039;m not even trying to reach you as a reader, this is not a debate. You won&#039;t convince me I&#039;m wrong, you won&#039;t sway my vote.  You reinforce other stupid people&#039;s belief and hope for a better tomorrow. You throw gas on the flames.

I&#039;m simply trying to disclose to ignorant readers, those who simply have not seen one of these before, or heard the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digitalmoneyworld.com/the-hyip-miraclei-want-to-believe/&quot;&gt;sales pitch&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;m showing them what a scam it is and how it works.  Those people write me, about a dozen a week now, and tell me &quot;thanks&quot; for showing me how this scam works and preventing me from losing money.  Those people are my target audience, not you.  You are in the stupid group, so good luck with that.

Insulting, YES, and more of that to come.  Here&#039;s why....what you do with your comments.....its like there is a guy in my &#039;family oriented neighborhood&#039; selling crack cocaine on the street corner and I&#039;m telling people stay away. I&#039;m not calling the cops on him, I clean my own house. I&#039;m explaining to people &#039;this is bad&#039;.   Then you come in with comments and try to tell me, &quot;well crack is not really bad, its just the addicts who have a problem, there are plenty of people who have a great profitable time using and selling drugs.&quot; &quot;Drugs are OK&quot;

I understand your routine, get out of my neighborhood.  Ponzi&#039;s stop using digital currency and get out of this industry. You bring trouble, dispare and more crime, GET OUT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CR, thanks for your comments, but clearly&#8230;you have some other unresolved issues at hand you need to work on!</p>
<p>Riddle me this batman:<br />
Two brothers awake one morning.  Now, one brother was blessed with brains and his IQ is very high.  One brother missed out and while he&#8217;s a good guy, he&#8217;s not going to college and is not considered smart, he IS considered stupid.   </p>
<p>Both brothers share one computer, over the weekend, they stumble onto the A3union web site.  Now, one is stupid and one is ignorant. The stupid brother says, &#8220;Let&#8217;s invest and make big money&#8221;.</p>
<p>The ignorant but smart brother says, &#8220;hmmm, I&#8217;ve never heard of or seen such an investment possibility, let me look around and see what others are saying&#8221;  They both then query &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;q=a3union">A3union</a>&#8220;, in Google, and find in the number 8 position, my posts showing that <a href="http://www.digitalmoneyworld.com/a3union-and-other-classic-multi-million-dollar-ponzi-scams-pt1/">a3union is a scam ponzi</a>.  The smarter brother reads the information and understands that this size return is not possible from a bunch of strangers on the Internet and finally says, &#8220;Now I understand what a HYIP Ponzi is, I&#8217;ve seen what happens to investors&#8217; money and I will NOT send my hard earned money. I now understand and choose not to get scammed&#8221;</p>
<p>The first stupid brother says, &#8220;&#8230;but their web seems really nice, this guy even says he got paid well and they have a shiny debit card, I think it sounds good, I&#8217;m sending in ALL my money&#8221;</p>
<p>There are two groups of people surfing the Internet who send money into these scams, the first group is smart but IGNORANT, meaning they just have not seen this before and don&#8217;t understand what is happening.  Like paying $5 at the Circus to see the two headed lady, the first time its a thrill, but once you find out that second head is just a mirror reflection, you won&#8217;t spend that $5 ever again.  Once they read about how the scam works, see all the others who have lost their money  and they can easily lose all their hard earned money, the ignorant surfer will pass and NOT throw their money away [invest].  This is the group of people I hope is reading my posts.  This is my target audience.</p>
<p>The second group of people, are just plain stupid, they are told its a scam, they are shown how the scam works, they are introduced to thousand of other who lost money BUT they continue to send in their money expecting big returns and claiming they have a <a href="http://www.digitalmoneyworld.com/the-hyip-miraclei-want-to-believe/">system</a> for recognizing that THIS HYIP, this one is a real investment and I&#8217;m going to make money.  These are the STUPID people, I can&#8217;t help the stupid people and that group is not my target audience when I post.</p>
<p>When you -CR- comment here, with your excuses and &#8216;expert HYIP&#8217; knowledge, you are wasting your time and boring me.  I&#8217;m not even trying to reach you as a reader, this is not a debate. You won&#8217;t convince me I&#8217;m wrong, you won&#8217;t sway my vote.  You reinforce other stupid people&#8217;s belief and hope for a better tomorrow. You throw gas on the flames.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m simply trying to disclose to ignorant readers, those who simply have not seen one of these before, or heard the <a href="http://www.digitalmoneyworld.com/the-hyip-miraclei-want-to-believe/">sales pitch</a>, I&#8217;m showing them what a scam it is and how it works.  Those people write me, about a dozen a week now, and tell me &#8220;thanks&#8221; for showing me how this scam works and preventing me from losing money.  Those people are my target audience, not you.  You are in the stupid group, so good luck with that.</p>
<p>Insulting, YES, and more of that to come.  Here&#8217;s why&#8230;.what you do with your comments&#8230;..its like there is a guy in my &#8216;family oriented neighborhood&#8217; selling crack cocaine on the street corner and I&#8217;m telling people stay away. I&#8217;m not calling the cops on him, I clean my own house. I&#8217;m explaining to people &#8216;this is bad&#8217;.   Then you come in with comments and try to tell me, &#8220;well crack is not really bad, its just the addicts who have a problem, there are plenty of people who have a great profitable time using and selling drugs.&#8221; &#8220;Drugs are OK&#8221;</p>
<p>I understand your routine, get out of my neighborhood.  Ponzi&#8217;s stop using digital currency and get out of this industry. You bring trouble, dispare and more crime, GET OUT.</p>
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		<title>By: C.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just dont understand... why the insults? I just posted here to share my point of view... Not being the same as yours (wich I respect and you are PARTIALLY right, 99% of every kind of investment I have seen online are obviously scams), I&#039;am insulted? Oh well... 

I just want to add another thing here, about people who lost their money in the past. Whenever you invest/play in something ( be it stocks, a casino or a ponzi, whatever you wish...), there is always a risk of loosing the money. ALWAYS!

You say that &quot;Ignorant people who don’t know better are not playing a game&quot;. I agree with you. But did you know that all of us were born ignorant? I was completly ignorant in this 2 years ago. But I was interested, so I tried to learn about it BEFORE throwing any money on it. And when I did it, I picked a percentage of money I COULD afford to lose witouth compromising my life! 
Hell, I lose 30% of my wage in money everyday paying taxes to my country and all I can see is the politicians getting new houses and TOP cars every year, 12 secretaries for each one, trips for familly and friends and other bennefits payd by me and everyone else who works. I&#039;am I not being scamed by my own country? They promisse free education, free health care, etc... All I see is bad roads where my car wretches in the holes(who pays for the fix? me... with another tax on it to help), a trip that should be 15 minutes from my house to my work takes 2 hours in traffic jam, just because building an alternative is too expensive (however we spend money in football fields, because it GIVES MONEY to some people) , I see people waiting in hospitals for operations DYING before they time comes in line and educations is far away from being free, my parents had to pay almost EVERYTHING ( and no my parents werent rich). Justice is ridiculous, proven phedofiles (I dont know if this is the word in english) just because they have money to hire good lawyers, are sent to other countries or even set free and even MAKE MORE money making stupid TV shows when they come out of the &quot;JAIL&quot; (they dont even go to jail, they stay in &quot;domicilliary prevention&quot; LOL what a joke...)!

I tell you this...LIFE is a SCAM. Get used to it, addapt to it and learn to get what you can from it - BE STRONGER, BE SMARTER OR LOSE AND PERISH. Its SAD, but TRUE! I dont like it either, these are not my values, but its the world I live in. We simply live in a society that tries to put us some rules to counter a natural universal law - Survival of the fittest - and it fails. I just say this to get to the point that I play with MY money and I&#039;m not encouranging anyone to put money anywhere, I&#039;m not winning that way! And I advise people who do it to follow a very simple rule: DO NOT PLAY/INVEST MONEY YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE! 
Also try to start with small values, so that if you loose, you dont loose too much. And when you win, take your money back ASAP and play/invest with your proffit only.  

Altough I dont aprove making money from the ignorance of people, you can&#039;t protect them from stupidity or ignorance... You can inform them and share ideas, but each one must do its homework, make its decisions and protect themselves, if that is its will. As someone said, &quot;let the fools fool themselves.&quot;


Regards,

C.R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just dont understand&#8230; why the insults? I just posted here to share my point of view&#8230; Not being the same as yours (wich I respect and you are PARTIALLY right, 99% of every kind of investment I have seen online are obviously scams), I&#8217;am insulted? Oh well&#8230; </p>
<p>I just want to add another thing here, about people who lost their money in the past. Whenever you invest/play in something ( be it stocks, a casino or a ponzi, whatever you wish&#8230;), there is always a risk of loosing the money. ALWAYS!</p>
<p>You say that &#8220;Ignorant people who don’t know better are not playing a game&#8221;. I agree with you. But did you know that all of us were born ignorant? I was completly ignorant in this 2 years ago. But I was interested, so I tried to learn about it BEFORE throwing any money on it. And when I did it, I picked a percentage of money I COULD afford to lose witouth compromising my life!<br />
Hell, I lose 30% of my wage in money everyday paying taxes to my country and all I can see is the politicians getting new houses and TOP cars every year, 12 secretaries for each one, trips for familly and friends and other bennefits payd by me and everyone else who works. I&#8217;am I not being scamed by my own country? They promisse free education, free health care, etc&#8230; All I see is bad roads where my car wretches in the holes(who pays for the fix? me&#8230; with another tax on it to help), a trip that should be 15 minutes from my house to my work takes 2 hours in traffic jam, just because building an alternative is too expensive (however we spend money in football fields, because it GIVES MONEY to some people) , I see people waiting in hospitals for operations DYING before they time comes in line and educations is far away from being free, my parents had to pay almost EVERYTHING ( and no my parents werent rich). Justice is ridiculous, proven phedofiles (I dont know if this is the word in english) just because they have money to hire good lawyers, are sent to other countries or even set free and even MAKE MORE money making stupid TV shows when they come out of the &#8220;JAIL&#8221; (they dont even go to jail, they stay in &#8220;domicilliary prevention&#8221; LOL what a joke&#8230;)!</p>
<p>I tell you this&#8230;LIFE is a SCAM. Get used to it, addapt to it and learn to get what you can from it &#8211; BE STRONGER, BE SMARTER OR LOSE AND PERISH. Its SAD, but TRUE! I dont like it either, these are not my values, but its the world I live in. We simply live in a society that tries to put us some rules to counter a natural universal law &#8211; Survival of the fittest &#8211; and it fails. I just say this to get to the point that I play with MY money and I&#8217;m not encouranging anyone to put money anywhere, I&#8217;m not winning that way! And I advise people who do it to follow a very simple rule: DO NOT PLAY/INVEST MONEY YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE!<br />
Also try to start with small values, so that if you loose, you dont loose too much. And when you win, take your money back ASAP and play/invest with your proffit only.  </p>
<p>Altough I dont aprove making money from the ignorance of people, you can&#8217;t protect them from stupidity or ignorance&#8230; You can inform them and share ideas, but each one must do its homework, make its decisions and protect themselves, if that is its will. As someone said, &#8220;let the fools fool themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>C.R.</p>
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		<title>By: Ng Way Huck</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/ponzi-scams-dirty-little-secrets-part-2-162/comment-page-1/#comment-340203</link>
		<dc:creator>Ng Way Huck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re not teasing me jaga, then nevermind.
If you&#039;re teasing me, read below:

1. I&#039;m one of the elite hyip investors. Not the amateur non-logical one.

2. I have my point.
3. I know averagely what is stock market.
4. I know how much a person can earn in 3 month trading stocks.
5. If you don&#039;t believe it it&#039;s none of my business.

I&#039;m earning alot anyway and I don&#039;t need to talk crazy. I just happened to saw the new comment in my mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not teasing me jaga, then nevermind.<br />
If you&#8217;re teasing me, read below:</p>
<p>1. I&#8217;m one of the elite hyip investors. Not the amateur non-logical one.</p>
<p>2. I have my point.<br />
3. I know averagely what is stock market.<br />
4. I know how much a person can earn in 3 month trading stocks.<br />
5. If you don&#8217;t believe it it&#8217;s none of my business.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m earning alot anyway and I don&#8217;t need to talk crazy. I just happened to saw the new comment in my mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaga Malam</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/ponzi-scams-dirty-little-secrets-part-2-162/comment-page-1/#comment-340201</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaga Malam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mark,

Let the fools fool themselves.

You just can&#039;t beat them, friend. They&#039;re PRO.

Ng Way Huck - please don&#039;t think next time, it won&#039;t help you anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mark,</p>
<p>Let the fools fool themselves.</p>
<p>You just can&#8217;t beat them, friend. They&#8217;re PRO.</p>
<p>Ng Way Huck &#8211; please don&#8217;t think next time, it won&#8217;t help you anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Ng Way Huck</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/ponzi-scams-dirty-little-secrets-part-2-162/comment-page-1/#comment-340198</link>
		<dc:creator>Ng Way Huck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, you are ridiculous.

1. You can and is possible to do 200% in 90 days
which is approximately 3 months.

2. $50 from strangers? You think that&#039;s small? What if 3,000,000 people invested $50? still small?

3. A3 Union exchange the e-gold to money before trading it in stock. I&#039;ve calculated all the fees, it can be overcome easily.

4. A3 Union exchange it back to e-currency before storing it to be paid.

5. You don&#039;t have proof for everything, this is your opinion.

6. You are amateur in HYIP. There&#039;s 2 types: pyramid and non-pyramid (with income)

7. If they&#039;re making money they&#039;ll be there. And every successful business CAN and DO fall.

8. 800% returns do not happen. True, but I thought someone said 200%, how come 800% is here?

9. HYIP higher than 4% are medium risk, higher than 5% are total scams. Using template is also scams because template are cheap. Only program that have no capital will use that.

10. If A3 Union are scam, how come they have Mastercard? And if they fake it, do you think they can use the logo?

11. You are not professional, your &quot;soooo&quot; word is attually used by childish person. No one do that.

12. HYIP means High yield investments. It does not means total scam. HYIP is only a category. It can include pyramid or non-pyramid including programs that can earn alot for real.

Conclusion, please study more. And go study stock market more. IT IS possible to make 200% in 3 months, and someone already did it. ALOT of people did it. Not regular investors, only the big one.

One more thing, C.R is totally correct. You  can&#039;t said he isn&#039;t. I think he&#039;s smarter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, you are ridiculous.</p>
<p>1. You can and is possible to do 200% in 90 days<br />
which is approximately 3 months.</p>
<p>2. $50 from strangers? You think that&#8217;s small? What if 3,000,000 people invested $50? still small?</p>
<p>3. A3 Union exchange the e-gold to money before trading it in stock. I&#8217;ve calculated all the fees, it can be overcome easily.</p>
<p>4. A3 Union exchange it back to e-currency before storing it to be paid.</p>
<p>5. You don&#8217;t have proof for everything, this is your opinion.</p>
<p>6. You are amateur in HYIP. There&#8217;s 2 types: pyramid and non-pyramid (with income)</p>
<p>7. If they&#8217;re making money they&#8217;ll be there. And every successful business CAN and DO fall.</p>
<p>8. 800% returns do not happen. True, but I thought someone said 200%, how come 800% is here?</p>
<p>9. HYIP higher than 4% are medium risk, higher than 5% are total scams. Using template is also scams because template are cheap. Only program that have no capital will use that.</p>
<p>10. If A3 Union are scam, how come they have Mastercard? And if they fake it, do you think they can use the logo?</p>
<p>11. You are not professional, your &#8220;soooo&#8221; word is attually used by childish person. No one do that.</p>
<p>12. HYIP means High yield investments. It does not means total scam. HYIP is only a category. It can include pyramid or non-pyramid including programs that can earn alot for real.</p>
<p>Conclusion, please study more. And go study stock market more. IT IS possible to make 200% in 3 months, and someone already did it. ALOT of people did it. Not regular investors, only the big one.</p>
<p>One more thing, C.R is totally correct. You  can&#8217;t said he isn&#8217;t. I think he&#8217;s smarter.</p>
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