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		<title>By: Phil Gerbyshak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Gerbyshak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your insights. David. Polishing turds is no good for anyone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Michelle&lt;/b&gt; - Great points. So great I&#039;m going to write an article about this soon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your insights. David. Polishing turds is no good for anyone.</p>
<p><b>Michelle</b> &#8211; Great points. So great I&#8217;m going to write an article about this soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malay Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malay Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On your comment:    Are you trying to lead people that don’t want to be led, or trying to manage people that don’t want to be managed?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I believe all people want to be led, but we want to be led by someone who adds value to our thinking.  Our particular manager cannot always do that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Resistors very often are people who need to be promoted, not &quot;gotten rid of&quot;.  The reason why they resist is because they are being expected to submit to the leadership of someone who does not offer them a bigger picture view.   I&#039;ve lived this very experience.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is a frequent occurence with young, high potentials or older high potentials who missed the promotion train early in their career and are now stuck working a in a role that is one or two layers below their capability level.  Here&#039;s an article about employees with attitude problems: http://www.peoplefit.com/downloads/whattodowithattitudeproblem.pdf&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A designing a system for better matching employees to roles based on cognitive capacity, rather than blaming the employees for being insubordinate, would solve much of this issue.  My blog is dedicated to a system&#039;s based approach.  My mantra is:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&quot;m OK.  You&#039;re OK.  Let&#039;s fix the system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regards,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michelle&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>On your comment:    Are you trying to lead people that don’t want to be led, or trying to manage people that don’t want to be managed?</p>
<p>I believe all people want to be led, but we want to be led by someone who adds value to our thinking.  Our particular manager cannot always do that.</p>
<p>Resistors very often are people who need to be promoted, not &#8220;gotten rid of&#8221;.  The reason why they resist is because they are being expected to submit to the leadership of someone who does not offer them a bigger picture view.   I&#8217;ve lived this very experience.</p>
<p>This is a frequent occurence with young, high potentials or older high potentials who missed the promotion train early in their career and are now stuck working a in a role that is one or two layers below their capability level.  Here&#8217;s an article about employees with attitude problems: <a href="http://www.peoplefit.com/downloads/whattodowithattitudeproblem.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.peoplefit.com/downloads/whattodowithattitudeproblem.pdf</a></p>
<p>A designing a system for better matching employees to roles based on cognitive capacity, rather than blaming the employees for being insubordinate, would solve much of this issue.  My blog is dedicated to a system&#8217;s based approach.  My mantra is:</p>
<p>I&#8221;m OK.  You&#8217;re OK.  Let&#8217;s fix the system.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Michelle</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil,
I like the don&#039;t push the rope analogy. I want to be careful about being too fast. First I want to be sure that there is not something in me or the enviroment that is creating difficulites.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Over the years, as an employee assistance counsellor for Seagram Ltd., I have seen people go through many changes and sometimes the employee who seems so resistant or difficult can be transformed into your biggest booster.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yet, great companies are not great for everyone. There needs to be a fit. So sometimes I think we want to keep our sense of humour about the situation and take the steps necessary to manage the situation and person.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wonder, am I beginning to slow down and might that not make sense in some situations that have such a very important impact on people and their careers. Having said all this I do chuckle and appreciate the comment from one of Canada&#039;s leading CEO&#039;s who said: &quot;you can&#039;t polish a turd.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;David&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,<br />
I like the don&#8217;t push the rope analogy. I want to be careful about being too fast. First I want to be sure that there is not something in me or the enviroment that is creating difficulites.</p>
<p>Over the years, as an employee assistance counsellor for Seagram Ltd., I have seen people go through many changes and sometimes the employee who seems so resistant or difficult can be transformed into your biggest booster.</p>
<p>Yet, great companies are not great for everyone. There needs to be a fit. So sometimes I think we want to keep our sense of humour about the situation and take the steps necessary to manage the situation and person.</p>
<p>I wonder, am I beginning to slow down and might that not make sense in some situations that have such a very important impact on people and their careers. Having said all this I do chuckle and appreciate the comment from one of Canada&#8217;s leading CEO&#8217;s who said: &#8220;you can&#8217;t polish a turd.&#8221;</p>
<p>David</p>
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