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		<title>By: SJohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this program.  www.yescience.com.  It may be one that works well with a homeschool environment. I&#039;ve used these prepackaged kits with my Scouts and they are easy to do but teach great concepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this program.  <a href="http://www.yescience.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.yescience.com</a>.  It may be one that works well with a homeschool environment. I&#8217;ve used these prepackaged kits with my Scouts and they are easy to do but teach great concepts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey. Ease up on public school teachers... we do have standards. It&#039;s the freaking tests that rope us in. BTW my name for it is &quot;No Child Can get Ahead&quot;. We generally hate the tests as much as parents do, but no one will listen, not to mention that when we DO say that we hate them, the ignorant administration just assumes that we don&#039;t want to TEACH. PARENTS have to step up, like you are and say it. Parents have to tell school board and especially lawmakers that this is rediculous. TEACHERS don&#039;t make the standards!!! TEACHERS don&#039;t make these tests!!! You had a bad applelk for a science teacher.... I DO care that my students&#039; notebooks are organized in so far as that THEY can find the information.... I DO give them a &quot;one size fits all&quot; standard format, but that is because very few of my student&#039; or their parents woudl organize their notebook properly where THEY could find the info if I didn&#039;t.  Sorry for the tirade, but I feel liek many parents are quick to blame ALL teachers, when the lawmakers are at fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey. Ease up on public school teachers&#8230; we do have standards. It&#8217;s the freaking tests that rope us in. BTW my name for it is &#8220;No Child Can get Ahead&#8221;. We generally hate the tests as much as parents do, but no one will listen, not to mention that when we DO say that we hate them, the ignorant administration just assumes that we don&#8217;t want to TEACH. PARENTS have to step up, like you are and say it. Parents have to tell school board and especially lawmakers that this is rediculous. TEACHERS don&#8217;t make the standards!!! TEACHERS don&#8217;t make these tests!!! You had a bad applelk for a science teacher&#8230;. I DO care that my students&#8217; notebooks are organized in so far as that THEY can find the information&#8230;. I DO give them a &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; standard format, but that is because very few of my student&#8217; or their parents woudl organize their notebook properly where THEY could find the info if I didn&#8217;t.  Sorry for the tirade, but I feel liek many parents are quick to blame ALL teachers, when the lawmakers are at fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This scenerio sounds familiar. Not necessarily in science though. We took our kids out of the public schools after they completed the third grade for incidents at school that I found disturbing in a classroom. The teacher had no control and the kids were dancing on top of desks screaming at the top of their lungs. I only had to stand out in the hallway to hear all the commotion going. The principal was no help and half the time was away from the school in district meetings. It seemed more favorable to be a friend to the students than a authoritary figure.

I homeschooled for 3 1/2 years and when I started there was need for remedial work before I could take them into the next grade. They had problems in spelling, math (didn&#039;t know their time-tables), and their reading level was below the third grade. It was shameful what I saw that the teachers failed to do in that school. They didn&#039;t know how to write in cursive, let alone even know what that was. I found out from another parent that it wasn&#039;t taught because they didn&#039;t feel it was a necessary area to teach. As long as they could print legibly, they considered that enough. Frankly, a lot couldn&#039;t print legibly either.

What I witnessed in that school, was more disciplining than teaching and even that was ineffective because it was a continuous daily battle between teacher and students. What was worse, because teachers were fearful of lawsuits, the students were winning. There were even parents that threaten teachers about discipling their kids and then would threaten them with a lawsuit. And these were usuallly the kids who were the bullies in the class. Look where they learned to be like that from. It was a no-win situation all around.

The kids knew exactly how to manipulate situations, like if the teacher touched a kid on the shoulder to get him to turn around, it turned into a type of child abuse scenario. Teachers ended up fearful of even laying a hand on a student for fear of being brought up on charges. 

School playgrounds are war zones with possies of kids running who were to play where and with whom. If the rules weren&#039;t followed as ordained by these kids, the victims ended up with heads smashed against brick walls and stepped on or kicked against the asphalt play surface. I heard about kids pushed off of jungle gyms because a group of kids claimed it and wouldn&#039;t allow anyone else on it. And it seemed that victums of the incidents received the worse end of the deal when it brought up for disciplinary actions. The kid who started it up was alway good in coming up with a good story to get him out of the worst end of the deal. So where were the teachers? They never seemed to be around when these incidents occurred or claimed they didn&#039;t see it even though they were on the playground.

The public schools have lots of problems that are in desperate need of attention. They are failing our children.

The claim that homeschool children are socially inept is so completely misunderstood. They are engaged with not only homeschoolers but with kids of the public schools as well. Outside activities for homeschooler is not only limited to kids who are homeschooled but activities such as boyscouts, little league, parks and reservation organizations activities from children in the community. Plus, they get out and about with other kids in their neighborhood who many attend public schools. Just because they are homeschooled does not mean that we shelter them away in our homes. Homeschooling is not a prison but a type of education where there is freedom to learn what you want and more. Some of that takes place outside of the home. Those are perhaps the best classrooms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This scenerio sounds familiar. Not necessarily in science though. We took our kids out of the public schools after they completed the third grade for incidents at school that I found disturbing in a classroom. The teacher had no control and the kids were dancing on top of desks screaming at the top of their lungs. I only had to stand out in the hallway to hear all the commotion going. The principal was no help and half the time was away from the school in district meetings. It seemed more favorable to be a friend to the students than a authoritary figure.</p>
<p>I homeschooled for 3 1/2 years and when I started there was need for remedial work before I could take them into the next grade. They had problems in spelling, math (didn&#8217;t know their time-tables), and their reading level was below the third grade. It was shameful what I saw that the teachers failed to do in that school. They didn&#8217;t know how to write in cursive, let alone even know what that was. I found out from another parent that it wasn&#8217;t taught because they didn&#8217;t feel it was a necessary area to teach. As long as they could print legibly, they considered that enough. Frankly, a lot couldn&#8217;t print legibly either.</p>
<p>What I witnessed in that school, was more disciplining than teaching and even that was ineffective because it was a continuous daily battle between teacher and students. What was worse, because teachers were fearful of lawsuits, the students were winning. There were even parents that threaten teachers about discipling their kids and then would threaten them with a lawsuit. And these were usuallly the kids who were the bullies in the class. Look where they learned to be like that from. It was a no-win situation all around.</p>
<p>The kids knew exactly how to manipulate situations, like if the teacher touched a kid on the shoulder to get him to turn around, it turned into a type of child abuse scenario. Teachers ended up fearful of even laying a hand on a student for fear of being brought up on charges. </p>
<p>School playgrounds are war zones with possies of kids running who were to play where and with whom. If the rules weren&#8217;t followed as ordained by these kids, the victims ended up with heads smashed against brick walls and stepped on or kicked against the asphalt play surface. I heard about kids pushed off of jungle gyms because a group of kids claimed it and wouldn&#8217;t allow anyone else on it. And it seemed that victums of the incidents received the worse end of the deal when it brought up for disciplinary actions. The kid who started it up was alway good in coming up with a good story to get him out of the worst end of the deal. So where were the teachers? They never seemed to be around when these incidents occurred or claimed they didn&#8217;t see it even though they were on the playground.</p>
<p>The public schools have lots of problems that are in desperate need of attention. They are failing our children.</p>
<p>The claim that homeschool children are socially inept is so completely misunderstood. They are engaged with not only homeschoolers but with kids of the public schools as well. Outside activities for homeschooler is not only limited to kids who are homeschooled but activities such as boyscouts, little league, parks and reservation organizations activities from children in the community. Plus, they get out and about with other kids in their neighborhood who many attend public schools. Just because they are homeschooled does not mean that we shelter them away in our homes. Homeschooling is not a prison but a type of education where there is freedom to learn what you want and more. Some of that takes place outside of the home. Those are perhaps the best classrooms.</p>
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		<title>By: E.D.Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.D.Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a full fledged scientist with a masters degree in science (microbiology,) I went back to school to get a teaching certificate to teach secondary school science. I lasted three years when I was told I was too intelligent to &quot;teach these kids.&quot; The kids didn&#039;t think so. They learned and got very excited about science. The teach to the test nonsense will never produce a scientist. It is the individual thinking, critical thinking, that does it. It is also not necessary to entertain the students. Learning and exploration is entertainment enough. The self-saisfaction a child gets from figuring it out themselves and getting it right.  It isn&#039;t the teachers. It is the grossly overpaid, too numerous administrators.
Best of luck to all of you who are taking this into your own hands. It is simply too important to neglect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a full fledged scientist with a masters degree in science (microbiology,) I went back to school to get a teaching certificate to teach secondary school science. I lasted three years when I was told I was too intelligent to &#8220;teach these kids.&#8221; The kids didn&#8217;t think so. They learned and got very excited about science. The teach to the test nonsense will never produce a scientist. It is the individual thinking, critical thinking, that does it. It is also not necessary to entertain the students. Learning and exploration is entertainment enough. The self-saisfaction a child gets from figuring it out themselves and getting it right.  It isn&#8217;t the teachers. It is the grossly overpaid, too numerous administrators.<br />
Best of luck to all of you who are taking this into your own hands. It is simply too important to neglect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your article. I mean the teachers today are still growing lima beans to teach kids about plants. I did a little research and found kids to be much more excited about growing a TickleMe Plant and watching the leaves fold and branches more when Tickled! I know my kids will appreciate nature more by my  own home schooling and creative lesson plans.
I found the TickleMe Plant Greenhouse at
Http://www.ticklemeplant.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your article. I mean the teachers today are still growing lima beans to teach kids about plants. I did a little research and found kids to be much more excited about growing a TickleMe Plant and watching the leaves fold and branches more when Tickled! I know my kids will appreciate nature more by my  own home schooling and creative lesson plans.<br />
I found the TickleMe Plant Greenhouse at<br />
Http://www.ticklemeplant.com</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a senior in high school now, in Northern Virginia, but I did go second through fifth grade in Colorado Springs, and I was in for a bit of a shock when I moved to Florida, where they took science a bit more seriously.  I also agree about the CSAP.  That was ALL the teachers EVER talked about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a senior in high school now, in Northern Virginia, but I did go second through fifth grade in Colorado Springs, and I was in for a bit of a shock when I moved to Florida, where they took science a bit more seriously.  I also agree about the CSAP.  That was ALL the teachers EVER talked about.</p>
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		<title>By: Mmmhhmmmmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mmmhhmmmmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a senior in high school, I very much agree. There are so many teachers who think that keeping a notebook for a ridiculous portion of your grade is &quot;an easy way to earn points.&quot; It really isn&#039;t. Though it sounds dumb, I concentrate much much more on learning than I do on my grade. And I have failed classes before because ignorant teachers decide that notebooks are the perfect solution to everything. I&#039;ve always liked math and basically any science, but the problem is I have yet to have a math teacher that understands me as a person. I&#039;m not organized, I never will be, but I can learn so much more by sitting and listening. All children are so different that there should NEVER be one set standard in a classroom. You&#039;d be amazed at how much one person can struggle just because they focus on knowledge rather than grades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a senior in high school, I very much agree. There are so many teachers who think that keeping a notebook for a ridiculous portion of your grade is &#8220;an easy way to earn points.&#8221; It really isn&#8217;t. Though it sounds dumb, I concentrate much much more on learning than I do on my grade. And I have failed classes before because ignorant teachers decide that notebooks are the perfect solution to everything. I&#8217;ve always liked math and basically any science, but the problem is I have yet to have a math teacher that understands me as a person. I&#8217;m not organized, I never will be, but I can learn so much more by sitting and listening. All children are so different that there should NEVER be one set standard in a classroom. You&#8217;d be amazed at how much one person can struggle just because they focus on knowledge rather than grades.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome!! Good for you! I was a science teacher in Georgia last year and in Florida the previous year and I will tell you it was hell. I do not have a degree in education, but rather in Biology and Psychology. The pressure for teaching to the state standardized tests is immense. In fact, our curriculum is generated around satisfying those tests. No projects, no labs, nothing fun or realistically educational, just grinding away at these test standards. Its horrible. Also, if you want to test students&#039; knowledge, you can&#039;t count tests for very much according to administration; THE BEST WAY TO GRADE A CHILD&#039;S PROGRESS IS WITH A NOTEBOOK CHECK! I kid you not, notebook checks are all the rage for teachers. I will say this for notebooks though, as a teacher, having the kids keep an organized notebook for a grade will certainly cover your ass when the administration looks over your shoulder. But in so far as LEARNING anything, pah, most of the kids copy each others notes and frequently exchange notebooks between classes. I&#039;ve seen a teacher grade the same notebook 4 times for 4 different kids. Apparently taking a test is not good enough for checking whether a child understands the information. Also we are coached as new teachers not to make tests that are particularly hard, especially in science. The questions should be true or false or multiple guess, and should not require too much mental processing to answer. A lot of folks blame the teachers, and I won&#039;t say that they aren&#039;t somewhat responsible, but when I was teaching, my hands were tied frequently by the administration and the state curriculum. there is no bonus for the teachers if the students LEARN the material and there is no bonus if the kids pass or fail these standardized tests for teachers. However, if the scores on the state tests are high enough, the admin gets a hefty bonus. So really, where are their motivations? I taught for 2 years- I will never ever do it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!! Good for you! I was a science teacher in Georgia last year and in Florida the previous year and I will tell you it was hell. I do not have a degree in education, but rather in Biology and Psychology. The pressure for teaching to the state standardized tests is immense. In fact, our curriculum is generated around satisfying those tests. No projects, no labs, nothing fun or realistically educational, just grinding away at these test standards. Its horrible. Also, if you want to test students&#8217; knowledge, you can&#8217;t count tests for very much according to administration; THE BEST WAY TO GRADE A CHILD&#8217;S PROGRESS IS WITH A NOTEBOOK CHECK! I kid you not, notebook checks are all the rage for teachers. I will say this for notebooks though, as a teacher, having the kids keep an organized notebook for a grade will certainly cover your ass when the administration looks over your shoulder. But in so far as LEARNING anything, pah, most of the kids copy each others notes and frequently exchange notebooks between classes. I&#8217;ve seen a teacher grade the same notebook 4 times for 4 different kids. Apparently taking a test is not good enough for checking whether a child understands the information. Also we are coached as new teachers not to make tests that are particularly hard, especially in science. The questions should be true or false or multiple guess, and should not require too much mental processing to answer. A lot of folks blame the teachers, and I won&#8217;t say that they aren&#8217;t somewhat responsible, but when I was teaching, my hands were tied frequently by the administration and the state curriculum. there is no bonus for the teachers if the students LEARN the material and there is no bonus if the kids pass or fail these standardized tests for teachers. However, if the scores on the state tests are high enough, the admin gets a hefty bonus. So really, where are their motivations? I taught for 2 years- I will never ever do it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, this reminds me of my science teacher in the 7th grade. For the first marking period, I received a 75 (Which is terrible), the second a 95 (Which is good, and the last an 85 (Not too good) In the 8th grade, I managed to hold a perfect 100 average throughout the whole year in science. Now, this year, I started off with another perfect average in biology. By the way, this is New York City. The middle and elementary school education in my area seems pretty... bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, this reminds me of my science teacher in the 7th grade. For the first marking period, I received a 75 (Which is terrible), the second a 95 (Which is good, and the last an 85 (Not too good) In the 8th grade, I managed to hold a perfect 100 average throughout the whole year in science. Now, this year, I started off with another perfect average in biology. By the way, this is New York City. The middle and elementary school education in my area seems pretty&#8230; bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Prof. Schwekendiek&#8217;s Teaching Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why I’m Homeschooling My Kid in Science Next Year</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prof. Schwekendiek&#8217;s Teaching Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why I’m Homeschooling My Kid in Science Next Year</dc:creator>
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