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	<title>Comments on: WIN Does Popunders</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334213</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t do popunders or popups.

Let me know where you saw them and I&#039;ll look into it.

As I&#039;ve said before sometimes a Tribal Fusion or Burst will let one slip in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t do popunders or popups.</p>
<p>Let me know where you saw them and I&#8217;ll look into it.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before sometimes a Tribal Fusion or Burst will let one slip in.</p>
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		<title>By: Elise</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334209</link>
		<dc:creator>Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I&#039;m concerned, when a blog starts using popunders, it ceases to be a blog.  Anyone who willingly puts popunders or popup ads on their site clearly has no respect, nor care for their readers.  I can take that shit from the NYT because I want their content and I have no other choice.  A blog though?  Fuggetit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, when a blog starts using popunders, it ceases to be a blog.  Anyone who willingly puts popunders or popup ads on their site clearly has no respect, nor care for their readers.  I can take that shit from the NYT because I want their content and I have no other choice.  A blog though?  Fuggetit.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting Technique</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334196</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting Technique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scriv&#8217;s is pi**ed that WIN is doing popunders and I can&#8217;t say I blame him - geez, you&#8217;d think that $25 Mill ought to be enough! Which, in turn, is one of the many places where you&#8217;ll see that there&#8217;s quite a few folks out there that think that WIN is no doubt benefitting from the recent agreement by Time-Warner to sell 5% of it&#8217;s AOL stake to Google for $1 BBBBillion. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scriv&#8217;s is pi**ed that WIN is doing popunders and I can&#8217;t say I blame him &#8211; geez, you&#8217;d think that $25 Mill ought to be enough! Which, in turn, is one of the many places where you&#8217;ll see that there&#8217;s quite a few folks out there that think that WIN is no doubt benefitting from the recent agreement by Time-Warner to sell 5% of it&#8217;s AOL stake to Google for $1 BBBBillion. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Weblogs Inc., called out over Pop Unders The Blog Herald: more blog news more often</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334190</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Weblogs Inc., called out over Pop Unders The Blog Herald: more blog news more often</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 19th, 2005 and is filed under News Brief. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently notallowed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 19th, 2005 and is filed under News Brief. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently notallowed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tyme</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334189</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It concerns me that Google bought a piece of WIN (indirectly). Maybe it&#039;s just me and my lack of trust but Google didn&#039;t invest a billion for nothing. I don&#039;t believe for one minute that Google will not give their billion dollar investment special treatment. I read Jason&#039;s announcement on his site and my jaw dropped. It did not say promote Google on AOL, it said promote AOL on Google. WIN&#039;s going to get a hellified advertising boost, putting all competing sites and an extreme disadvantage.

About how problogging ruined blogging - can&#039;t wait to read it, although I personally don&#039;t think you contributed to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It concerns me that Google bought a piece of WIN (indirectly). Maybe it&#8217;s just me and my lack of trust but Google didn&#8217;t invest a billion for nothing. I don&#8217;t believe for one minute that Google will not give their billion dollar investment special treatment. I read Jason&#8217;s announcement on his site and my jaw dropped. It did not say promote Google on AOL, it said promote AOL on Google. WIN&#8217;s going to get a hellified advertising boost, putting all competing sites and an extreme disadvantage.</p>
<p>About how problogging ruined blogging &#8211; can&#8217;t wait to read it, although I personally don&#8217;t think you contributed to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Something Delicious Offline &#187; A Jack of All Blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334188</link>
		<dc:creator>Something Delicious Offline &#187; A Jack of All Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dont know shit about good business: WIN : Fuck Popunders. Delicious: Offline Days after Yahooed. Textdrive: Shitty Customer Service. Typepad : You don&#8217;t need me to explain this. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dont know shit about good business: WIN : Fuck Popunders. Delicious: Offline Days after Yahooed. Textdrive: Shitty Customer Service. Typepad : You don&#8217;t need me to explain this. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334187</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamsi: Good point, but I think the only glaring fault of that ad is how red it is. It&#039;s definitely not big by any means, but I guess the irony of me writing this and having that up is thick. Of course I took the other ads down on the leftside.

Tyme: Yeah, I just don&#039;t get it. Jason also claims to be pro-blogosphere and I am all about making money with ads and whatnot, but this just screams 90s MSM garbage. I fear it will trigger more blogs to follow suit so they can increase the bottomline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamsi: Good point, but I think the only glaring fault of that ad is how red it is. It&#8217;s definitely not big by any means, but I guess the irony of me writing this and having that up is thick. Of course I took the other ads down on the leftside.</p>
<p>Tyme: Yeah, I just don&#8217;t get it. Jason also claims to be pro-blogosphere and I am all about making money with ads and whatnot, but this just screams 90s MSM garbage. I fear it will trigger more blogs to follow suit so they can increase the bottomline.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Too Geeky &#187; Yet another blogroll clean: dumping WIN</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334186</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Too Geeky &#187; Yet another blogroll clean: dumping WIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote recently about loyalty in the comments of Cookie Cutter Effect. For those that read my sites, I am very loyal and I try to be ethical (I need to update that because it still references BYW). When my loyalty dies, it is hard to get back. Anyway, in Cookie Cutter Effect, I recommended people check out WoW Insider. I regret that now for multiple reasons. Scrivs wrote about one of them, much better than I would have. Go read his post, express your thoughts. I wrote about another issue I have with the site too. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote recently about loyalty in the comments of Cookie Cutter Effect. For those that read my sites, I am very loyal and I try to be ethical (I need to update that because it still references BYW). When my loyalty dies, it is hard to get back. Anyway, in Cookie Cutter Effect, I recommended people check out WoW Insider. I regret that now for multiple reasons. Scrivs wrote about one of them, much better than I would have. Go read his post, express your thoughts. I wrote about another issue I have with the site too. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tyme</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334185</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...you beat me to it. Good thing too because you said it much better than I would have.

I noticed the popunders and I was not pleased, especially since I just complemented them on making the site have more a &quot;gamer&quot; feel, but it still sucks from a gamer perspective and adding the popups is like an additional slap in the face. That is what irks me about site launches today. The site was launched and the majority of the content was written by a rookie, not that there isn&#039;t a place for Josh on the site but he was ripped apart because his readers knew more about the game than he did. Now they are looking for more experienced writers...the drawbacks of entering a niche they know nothing about.

Jason and I have gone through this before where I&#039;ve publicly stated I was unsubscribing to the blogs, he&#039;d address it on his site, listen to what people had to say, and eventually it would get fixed or a compromise would be made. Jason is now an employee and might not have the power to fix this. I mean please, when does AOL ever get anything right? They just put huge ads on AOL journals - for paying customers. Highly unlikely AOL will whip some respect up for their readers...even though they need readers (badly) to survive...although not as much now since they got a billion for Google. 

So once again, I&#039;ve unsubscribed to WIN sites...unfortunately this time it might be permanent.

And I wrote this without mentioning the &quot;S&quot; word once... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;you beat me to it. Good thing too because you said it much better than I would have.</p>
<p>I noticed the popunders and I was not pleased, especially since I just complemented them on making the site have more a &#8220;gamer&#8221; feel, but it still sucks from a gamer perspective and adding the popups is like an additional slap in the face. That is what irks me about site launches today. The site was launched and the majority of the content was written by a rookie, not that there isn&#8217;t a place for Josh on the site but he was ripped apart because his readers knew more about the game than he did. Now they are looking for more experienced writers&#8230;the drawbacks of entering a niche they know nothing about.</p>
<p>Jason and I have gone through this before where I&#8217;ve publicly stated I was unsubscribing to the blogs, he&#8217;d address it on his site, listen to what people had to say, and eventually it would get fixed or a compromise would be made. Jason is now an employee and might not have the power to fix this. I mean please, when does AOL ever get anything right? They just put huge ads on AOL journals &#8211; for paying customers. Highly unlikely AOL will whip some respect up for their readers&#8230;even though they need readers (badly) to survive&#8230;although not as much now since they got a billion for Google. </p>
<p>So once again, I&#8217;ve unsubscribed to WIN sites&#8230;unfortunately this time it might be permanent.</p>
<p>And I wrote this without mentioning the &#8220;S&#8221; word once&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jamsi</title>
		<link>http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/win-does-popunders-217/comment-page-1/#comment-334184</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see your point Mr Scrivs, people are getting too greedy and website&#039;s are become more ad focused. 

I noticed this week a new massive red banner on this site ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point Mr Scrivs, people are getting too greedy and website&#8217;s are become more ad focused. </p>
<p>I noticed this week a new massive red banner on this site ..</p>
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