Comments on: More Hall of Fame Madness http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/more-hall-of-fame-madness/ Major League Baseball News from Spring Training to the World Series Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:49:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Geoff Young http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/more-hall-of-fame-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-996 Geoff Young Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:38:30 +0000 http://www.knucklecurve.com/more-hall-of-fame-madness/#comment-996 Anthony: For the most part, I agree that it's about marginal players. However, when guys like Goose Gossage and Bert Blyleven (and probably Tim Raines) are denied entrance, that's kind of a problem from where I sit. The voters can hem and haw about Andre Dawson and Jim Rice for eternity for all I care, but enough with arguments from voters for Jack Morris over Blyleven. Doug: Yeah, I can see that to a degree. Visiting the place totally changed my perspective; it really is magical if you love baseball. That said, I'd like to see the folks in charge of determining who is enshrined do a better job at it. Like, I'm really not looking forward to the day Bud Selig gets voted in. Anthony: For the most part, I agree that it’s about marginal players. However, when guys like Goose Gossage and Bert Blyleven (and probably Tim Raines) are denied entrance, that’s kind of a problem from where I sit. The voters can hem and haw about Andre Dawson and Jim Rice for eternity for all I care, but enough with arguments from voters for Jack Morris over Blyleven.

Doug: Yeah, I can see that to a degree. Visiting the place totally changed my perspective; it really is magical if you love baseball. That said, I’d like to see the folks in charge of determining who is enshrined do a better job at it. Like, I’m really not looking forward to the day Bud Selig gets voted in.

]]> By: Doug Fulkerson http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/more-hall-of-fame-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Doug Fulkerson Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:45:15 +0000 http://www.knucklecurve.com/more-hall-of-fame-madness/#comment-1160 Well, it is called the Baseball Hall of Fame, not the Baseball Hall of Accuracy. There will always be debates over what players should or shouldn't be inducted into the Hall of Fame, just as there have been, and always will be, arguments over what players are better than others, i.e. is Bonds a better player than Aaron, or Cobb better than Wagner, etc., etc. To my mind, the Hall is more like the Smithsonian. It's a repository of baseball information, accurate, inaccurate, or mythological, and is influenced by everyone involved in baseball from the owners down to the most casual fan. In the future, historians will have lots to chew over, and that is how it should be. Well, it is called the Baseball Hall of Fame, not the Baseball Hall of Accuracy. There will always be debates over what players should or shouldn’t be inducted into the Hall of Fame, just as there have been, and always will be, arguments over what players are better than others, i.e. is Bonds a better player than Aaron, or Cobb better than Wagner, etc., etc. To my mind, the Hall is more like the Smithsonian. It’s a repository of baseball information, accurate, inaccurate, or mythological, and is influenced by everyone involved in baseball from the owners down to the most casual fan. In the future, historians will have lots to chew over, and that is how it should be.

]]> By: Anthony http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/more-hall-of-fame-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-1157 Anthony Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:03:44 +0000 http://www.knucklecurve.com/more-hall-of-fame-madness/#comment-1157 I've never been to Cooperstown but if they're still sticking to the Doubleday myth, well that's just silly. As far as I'm concerned, all the arguments are about marginal players. As long as they get the Tony Gwynns and Cal Ripkens right I'm not going to gripe too much. I would like to see them raise the bar a bit but it's like Steve Garvey's retired number at Petco: once it's done you can't undo it. And if you raise the bar you'll still have the same arguments, it'll just be about better players. I’ve never been to Cooperstown but if they’re still sticking to the Doubleday myth, well that’s just silly.

As far as I’m concerned, all the arguments are about marginal players. As long as they get the Tony Gwynns and Cal Ripkens right I’m not going to gripe too much. I would like to see them raise the bar a bit but it’s like Steve Garvey’s retired number at Petco: once it’s done you can’t undo it. And if you raise the bar you’ll still have the same arguments, it’ll just be about better players.

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