Comments on: Red Sox “Win” Right to Woo Matsuzaka

By: Knuckle Curve » Welcome, Mr. Irrelevant Readers

Knuckle Curve » Welcome, Mr. Irrelevant Readers — Sun, 24 Dec 2006 18:45:28 +0000

[...] If you’re just coming to Knuckle Curve via Jamie’s fine list, welcome! Right now we’re knee deep in analyzing off-season moves in baseball — mostly ridiculing the Baltimore Orioles for spending way too much money on mediocre relievers (although the Rangers are about to incur my wrath for the price they paid to keep Vicente “Stop Calling Me Chan Ho” Padilla) and of course the obligatory Daisuke Matsuzaka discussion. [...]

By: Knuckle Curve » Yankees Sign Mussina, Acquire Rights to Igawa

Knuckle Curve » Yankees Sign Mussina, Acquire Rights to Igawa — Sun, 24 Dec 2006 18:44:56 +0000

[...] On the interantional front, the Yanks have acquired the rights to negotiate with Japanese left-hander Kei Igawa. Their bid for Igawa was $26 million, which I guess makes him half the pitcher that Daisuke Matsuzaka is. That should sit well with George Steinbrenner and the New York media. [...]

By: Didi

Didi — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:00:28 +0000

Who puts tuna in their olive sandwich? That’s against nature.

By: Geoff Young

Geoff Young — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:27:41 +0000

Kelly, I think you’re dead on that something gets done here. There is way too much at stake on all sides for a deal not to happen. As for Zito, he will get an outrageous contract as well. I think 5/$80M is about right, and it’ll be the Yankees.

More importantly: Black olives, although I’m open to green.

Peter, thanks for the support.

By: Peter Friberg

Peter Friberg — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:10:58 +0000

You are crazy for putting olives on your tuna sandwich…

By: Kelly O'Connor

Kelly O'Connor — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:23:56 +0000

But in this case, Boras is denied his usual tactic: the phantom higher offer from another team. ^_^ The only ones who can negotiate are the Red Sox, and it’s all or nothing. I think Boras’ efforts are going to be concentrated here on getting as short a contract as possible, not as much as usual on getting the highest dollar. And I think Seibu, MLB and the Red Sox all have such a strong interest in making sure Matsuzaka gets signed that there’s not much danger of it not happening.

Don’t get me wrong. It’s a staggering sum. But is it better for the Sox, say, to get in a bidding war for Zito? My guess is Zito goes 5 years/$80, easy. And we already know the Yankees tee off on Zito. I’d far rather see the Sox take this kind of chance on a 26-year-old pitcher they’ve been watching for longer than they’ve let on than, say, throw $22 million at Clemens to pitch 25 games.

And clearly all of this is predicated on having the money. I realize the two teams I follow are not financially in the same bracket. But the Yankees outspent the Red Sox by about $75 million last year alone. I don’t think one extreme expenditure of this sort, particularly considered over the life of the contract, breaks the Boston bank.

If Matsuzaka is the second coming of Pedro, this is way more than just okay. Pedros don’t come on the market all that often…

(Green olives or black olives?)

By: Geoff Young

Geoff Young — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:59:26 +0000

I’m with you, Kurt. What boggles my mind is that the amount the Red Sox have spent only gives them the right to talk to the guy.

If Matsuzaka is the second coming of Clemens or Pedro, then maybe it works out okay. But what if he “only” turns out to be another, say, David Cone or Orel Hershiser?

I don’t know who I envy less here, Matsuzaka or the Red Sox. Not Scott Boras — I do envy him.

By: Kurt

Kurt — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:24:30 +0000

I don’t doubt he’s a great pitcher, but I don’t see how this makes any sense for Boston to pay what will work out to $25M+ per season by the time the i’s are dotted for a starting pitcher with a lot of innings on his young body.

Maybe they’ve done the financial calculations and come out in the black if they make the playoffs and sell a lot of jerseys and break into the Japan market. But short of that, that sort of money is crazy.