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		<title>More Hall of Fame Madness</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vegas Watch has compiled a list of reasons voters have offered in support of their selections for the Class of 2008. Some of them are pretty funny if you&#8217;re willing to separate yourself from the fact that these folks are entrusted with something that a lot of people hold sacred.
Jeff at Brew Crew Ball goes so far as to claim that he hates the Hall of Fame. That&#8217;s a bit strong for my taste, but I totally understand it.
Here&#8217;s how I look at the situation. For me, baseball is almost like religion. The ballpark is my church, and Cooperstown is [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve">Knuckle Curve</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegas Watch has compiled a <a href="http://vegaswatch.net/2007/12/worst-hall-of-fame-arguments-of-2008.html">list of reasons voters have offered in support of their selections</a> for the Class of 2008. Some of them are pretty funny if you&#8217;re willing to separate yourself from the fact that these folks are entrusted with something that a lot of people hold sacred.</p>
<p>Jeff at Brew Crew Ball goes so far as to claim that <a href="http://www.brewcrewball.com/story/2008/1/2/104838/8300">he hates the Hall of Fame</a>. That&#8217;s a bit strong for my taste, but I totally understand it.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I look at the situation. For me, baseball is almost like religion. The ballpark is my church, and Cooperstown is my Mecca. Okay, technically we&#8217;re talking about two different religions now, but just bear with me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to the Hall of Fame twice in my life: once in August 1988, and again this past summer to see Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. inducted. It&#8217;s one of the coolest places I&#8217;ve ever visited, and I&#8217;ll go again the next time it&#8217;s feasible for me to do so.</p>
<p>The building, the environment, the history &#8212; I&#8217;m down with all that. What doesn&#8217;t really work for me is the poor attention to details that ought to matter. Doubleday Field? It&#8217;s named after a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Doubleday#Legacy_and_baseball">Union general in the Civil War</a> whose connections to baseball are dubious at best rather than, say, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Cartwright">the guy who invented the sport</a>.</p>
<p>When I see voters give absurd reasons for letting guys into the Hall or keeping them out, it doesn&#8217;t bother me all that much. I figure they&#8217;re just keeping in the tradition of poorly documenting our national pastime&#8217;s legacy.</p>
<p>Well, okay, that does bother me. But not enough to keep me from enjoying the place when I visit. Does that make sense? Eh, probably not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>When It Raines, It Pours</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan McLaughlin has a nice article up at Hardball Times (full disclosure: I contribute to THT) on the Hall of Fame worthiness of Tim Raines. In it, Dan compares Raines to other great &#8220;tablesetters&#8221; &#8212; guys whose skills were best suited to the top of the order &#8212; throughout baseball history. 
The most important finding is that Raines hangs pretty well with his contemporaries &#8212; Tony Gwynn, Rickey Henderson, and Paul Molitor. I didn&#8217;t get to see Henderson and Molitor play much until later in their careers, but I watched a lot of Gwynn and Raines. As a huge Gwynn [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve">Knuckle Curve</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.geoffreynyoung.com/gfx/hof-museum.jpg" alt="Baseball Hall of Fame, Cooperstown, N.Y." style="float:right;width:250px;margin-left:6px;" />Dan McLaughlin has a nice article up at Hardball Times (full disclosure: I contribute to THT) on the <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-path-to-cooperstown-tim-raines-and-the-tablesetters/">Hall of Fame worthiness of Tim Raines</a>. In it, Dan compares Raines to other great &#8220;tablesetters&#8221; &#8212; guys whose skills were best suited to the top of the order &#8212; throughout baseball history. </p>
<p>The most important finding is that Raines hangs pretty well with his contemporaries &#8212; Tony Gwynn, Rickey Henderson, and Paul Molitor. I didn&#8217;t get to see Henderson and Molitor play much until later in their careers, but I watched a lot of Gwynn and Raines. As a huge Gwynn fan, I find myself agreeing with Dan that if he&#8217;s in, Raines has to be there as well.</p>
<p>Seems to me the best argument anyone can make against Raines is that he didn&#8217;t reach the magical 3000-hit plateau, which is silly. Lou Brock hit that milestone, but I like to believe that the voters would have elected him in even if he hadn&#8217;t. And you know what? Raines was a better player than Brock.</p>
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		<title>Hall of Fame Road Trip Photos</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#8217;ve mentioned on several different occasions, I drove from San Diego to Cooperstown in July to see Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. At long last, I have photos &#8212; 158 of them, in fact &#8212; to prove it. Click on the montage below to view the entire set. Enjoy!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/hall-of-fame-road-trip/">mentioned</a> <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/hall-of-fame-induction-weekend/">on several</a> <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/baseball-in-springfield/">different</a> <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/hall-of-fame-induction-weekend/">occasions</a>, I drove from San Diego to Cooperstown in July to see Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. At long last, I have photos &#8212; 158 of them, in fact &#8212; to prove it. Click on the montage below to view the entire set. Enjoy!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gyoung858/sets/72157601699010388/detail/" title="Road Trip: San Diego to Cooperstown, August 2007"><img src="http://www.geoffreynyoung.com/gfx/hof-thumbs.jpg" alt="Road Trip: San Diego to Cooperstown, August 2007" /></a></p>
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		<title>Hall of Fame Recap</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I teased last week with a brief recounting of my trip to Cooperstown to see Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. enshrined in the Hall of Fame. Now I&#8217;ve got something a little more fully formed up at Hardball Times. Enjoy!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teased last week with a <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/hall-of-fame-induction-weekend/">brief recounting of my trip to Cooperstown</a> to see Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. enshrined in the Hall of Fame. Now I&#8217;ve got <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/hall-of-fame-induction-2007/">something a little more fully formed</a> up at Hardball Times. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Hall of Fame Induction Weekend</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I&#8217;ve attended some crazy events in my day, but Cooperstown was complete madness this weekend. I got to watch a few outs of the annual minor-league game played at Doubleday Stadium on Saturday before the rains hit (Aberdeen ended up beating &#8220;hometown&#8221; Oneonta for those interested), wander around the museum, and see a little of the &#8220;red carpet&#8221; event that evening &#8212; basically a bunch of Hall of Famers and their families get together for dinner and arrive via trolley, then enter the museum on a red carpet to the cheers of thousands. Not exactly my thing, but it [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve">Knuckle Curve</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve attended some crazy events in my day, but Cooperstown was complete madness this weekend. I got to watch a few outs of the annual minor-league game played at Doubleday Stadium on Saturday before the rains hit (Aberdeen ended up beating &#8220;hometown&#8221; Oneonta for those interested), wander around the museum, and see a little of the &#8220;red carpet&#8221; event that evening &#8212; basically a bunch of Hall of Famers and their families get together for dinner and arrive via trolley, then enter the museum on a red carpet to the cheers of thousands. Not exactly my thing, but it was cool to see so many legends of the game &#8212; Wade Boggs, Whitey Ford, Willie Mays, Joe Morgan, and more &#8212; in the same place, at the same time.</p>
<p>On Sunday, amidst a sea of orange, I sat on a field in Cooperstown and watched as Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. were inducted into the Hall of Fame. As a Padres fan, I was kind of bummed that Gwynn got paired up with a guy whose fans live within a day&#8217;s drive of Cooperstown (as opposed to the 3,315 miles I put on my car to get there) and totally dominated the scene. As a baseball fan, though, I couldn&#8217;t be happier that those two went in together. Seems that Ripken shared many of the same qualities that made Gwynn such a pleasure to watch and so easy to cheer.</p>
<p>I only saw Ripken play maybe once or twice on television &#8212; the one chance I had to watch him in person never quite materialized, as his manager benched him for the Saturday night game the last time he came to Anaheim. I booed pretty loudly that night because I had driven up from San Diego specifically to watch him play. On Sunday, though, I finally got to see Ripken in person and he didn&#8217;t disappoint. Both he and Gwynn exuded an almost contagious passion for the game. The folks who voted made two great choices, picking players who accomplished fantastic things on the field and who have represented their communities so well over the years.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Mr. Gwynn and Mr. Ripken on their well-deserved induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame.</p>
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		<title>Off to Cooperstown</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#8217;ve mentioned before, I&#8217;m driving from San Diego to Cooperstown to see Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. inducted into the Hall of Fame. Transmissions may be sporadic for the next 10 or so days, but I will try to check in as often as possible with updates from the road. Wish me luck&#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve/hall-of-fame-road-trip/">mentioned before</a>, I&#8217;m driving from San Diego to Cooperstown to see Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. inducted into the Hall of Fame. Transmissions may be sporadic for the next 10 or so days, but I will try to check in as often as possible with updates from the road. Wish me luck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Ichiro Signs Extension, Will Remain in Seattle through 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Young</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Center fielder Ichiro Suzuki has signed a 5-year, $90 million contract extension that will keep him in Seattle through 2012. I expected him to get somewhere in the $18-20 million per year range on the open market, for 5 or 6 years, so this seems pretty reasonable to me.
Ichiro often draws comparisons to Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn, and although Gwynn was a much more productive player throughout his career, there is one area in which both players are very similar. Both are severely overrated by a certain contingent of the fan base, and severely underrated by another. This is [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/knucklecurve">Knuckle Curve</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Center fielder <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2935612">Ichiro Suzuki has signed a 5-year, $90 million contract extension</a> that will keep him in Seattle through 2012. I expected him to get somewhere in the $18-20 million per year range on the open market, for 5 or 6 years, so this seems pretty reasonable to me.</p>
<p>Ichiro often draws comparisons to Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn, and although Gwynn was a much more productive player throughout his career, there is one area in which both players are very similar. Both are severely overrated by a certain contingent of the fan base, and severely underrated by another. This is what happens when your game revolves around hitting singles in a league where batting average is still held in high regard despite not being a particularly good measure of run production.</p>
<p>These same folks love Juan Pierre as a leadoff hitter. The difference between Pierre and guys like Gwynn and Ichiro is that the latter perform at such a high level that it&#8217;s impossible to ignore their contributions. Ichiro has a career .332 batting average as I write this. He is good for 30+ steals a year at a high success rate, and he&#8217;s a mortal lock to score 100 runs. Gold Glove defender in the outfield? Believe it.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t mentioned Ichiro&#8217;s marquee value &#8212; everything he brings to the proverbial table beyond on-field performance. From a marketing standpoint, he&#8217;s got to be the most recognizable Asian baseball player currently plying his trade in North America. I have no statistics to support this, but I imagine that his merchandise flies off the shelves on both sides of the Pacific.</p>
<p>Taken together, Ichiro&#8217;s on-field exploits and off-field marketability make him a very valuable commodity. With a large Japanese community and a port that serves as a gateway to the Pacific Rim, Seattle is an obvious fit for Ichiro. He&#8217;s known there, he&#8217;s adored there, and now he&#8217;ll be staying there a while. This is a smart move for both him and the Mariners.</p>
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