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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alec,

Thanks for the info - that&#039;s really useful stuff. I&#039;ll definitely take a look at Qingy.

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alec,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info &#8211; that&#8217;s really useful stuff. I&#8217;ll definitely take a look at Qingy.</p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>By: AlecTavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlecTavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some caveats on what was posted above:

Different runlevels may do different things on different distributions. To see what your distribution does, examine the /etc/inittab file. For reference, look at the boot, init, login, and inittab man pages.

As for detailed information about what would come up if you did not use a display manager, that same inittab file should have a series of lines similar to this:

c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty1 linux
c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty2 linux
c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty3 linux

c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty6 linux

These lines tell the init program to start login prompts on TTYs 1-6. A tty is a virtual terminal, and that is what the Ctrl-Alt-Fn keys switch between. Your particular distribution may use a program other than agetty, such as getty. The origin of these obscure names is the main purpose of the program: &quot;get a tty&quot;.

As this is a related issue, I would actually recommend that you investigate the &quot;qingy&quot; program, which probably does not come with your base distribution. Qingy is not getty, but is a graphical login prompt similar to display managers. The advantage is that it does not use the X-server. This is a security improvement over xdm, kdm, gdm, entrance, etc. because it does not require the X-server to be run as root. It also allows you to log in to text sessions without ever starting X at all. Take a look for it on google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some caveats on what was posted above:</p>
<p>Different runlevels may do different things on different distributions. To see what your distribution does, examine the /etc/inittab file. For reference, look at the boot, init, login, and inittab man pages.</p>
<p>As for detailed information about what would come up if you did not use a display manager, that same inittab file should have a series of lines similar to this:</p>
<p>c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty1 linux<br />
c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty2 linux<br />
c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty3 linux</p>
<p>c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty tty6 linux</p>
<p>These lines tell the init program to start login prompts on TTYs 1-6. A tty is a virtual terminal, and that is what the Ctrl-Alt-Fn keys switch between. Your particular distribution may use a program other than agetty, such as getty. The origin of these obscure names is the main purpose of the program: &#8220;get a tty&#8221;.</p>
<p>As this is a related issue, I would actually recommend that you investigate the &#8220;qingy&#8221; program, which probably does not come with your base distribution. Qingy is not getty, but is a graphical login prompt similar to display managers. The advantage is that it does not use the X-server. This is a security improvement over xdm, kdm, gdm, entrance, etc. because it does not require the X-server to be run as root. It also allows you to log in to text sessions without ever starting X at all. Take a look for it on google.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose, yeah.

It&#039;s also worth noting that pressing Ctrl + Alt + F1 should bring you to the same login screen while the display manager is running (and pressing Ctrl + Alt + F7 brings you back)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose, yeah.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that pressing Ctrl + Alt + F1 should bring you to the same login screen while the display manager is running (and pressing Ctrl + Alt + F7 brings you back)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh...so is disabling (or uninstalling all *dm&#039;s) the same as booting into Runlevel 3?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230;so is disabling (or uninstalling all *dm&#8217;s) the same as booting into Runlevel 3?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens on a typical desktop Linux system on boot is that the display manager is started as root. If you disable the display manager, you will get a text shell asking you for a username and password. Once you type that in, you can start the graphical session by typing &#039;startx&#039; (although you may need to edit your .xinitrc file to start up a desktop environment, such as KDE or GNOME, as some distros don&#039;t do this automatically). So the quick answer is - yes and yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens on a typical desktop Linux system on boot is that the display manager is started as root. If you disable the display manager, you will get a text shell asking you for a username and password. Once you type that in, you can start the graphical session by typing &#8217;startx&#8217; (although you may need to edit your .xinitrc file to start up a desktop environment, such as KDE or GNOME, as some distros don&#8217;t do this automatically). So the quick answer is &#8211; yes and yes.</p>
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