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		<title>Once A Cheater, Always A Cheater</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lyndsey D'Arcangelo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#8217;t that that true? I mean really, should we be that surprised that the IOC is investigating whether or not Chinese gymnasts were underage in the 2000 Olympics? (Maybe about as surprised as we all are that Clay Aiken is gay &#8230; yep, totally didn&#8217;t see that one coming.)
According to Yahoo! Sports, international gymnastics officials are examining whether Yang Yun and Dong Fangxiao, in particular, were old enough to compete at the Sydney Olympics. Gymnasts must turn 16 during the Olympic year.

This sounds painstakingly familiar &#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that that true? I mean really, should we be <em>that</em> surprised that the <strong>IOC</strong> is investigating whether or not <strong>Chinese gymnasts</strong> were underage in the <strong>2000 Olympics</strong>? (Maybe about as surprised as we all are that <strong>Clay Aiken is gay</strong> &#8230; yep, totally didn&#8217;t see that one coming.)</p>
<p>According to <strong>Yahoo! Sports</strong>,<img src='http://www.everyjoe.com/files/671/2008/09/yangyun_nc.jpg' align='right' alt='yangyun_nc.jpg' /> international gymnastics officials are examining whether <strong>Yang Yun</strong> and <strong>Dong Fangxiao</strong>, in particular, were old enough to compete at the <strong>Sydney Olympics</strong>. Gymnasts must turn 16 during the <strong>Olympic </strong>year.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/are-the-chinese-girls-gymnasts-underage/"><br />
This sounds painstakingly familiar</a> &#8230;</p>
<p>Only a month after the <strong>Beijing Games</strong> ended, the investigation into the eligibility of the Chinese gymnasts continues, and Gueisbuhler said there is no timetable for when a report will be handed over to the <strong>IOC</strong>.</p>
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		<title>Was Alicia Sacramone Robbed By The Judges?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week&#8217;s installment of For Argument’s Sake centers on gymnastics. I&#8217;ll be honest. I don&#8217;t pay any attention to gymnastics at any other time during the year &#8230; well,  during the last four years actually. But for some reason, maybe because it&#8217;s the 2008 Olympics, I find myself wanting to watch. I find myself staying up late to watch. And I find myself enamored with the likes of Nastia Liukin, Shawn Johnson and Jonathan Horton (who won a silver medal on the high bar the other night by the way!).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week&#8217;s installment of <strong>For Argument’s Sake</strong> centers on gymnastics. I&#8217;ll be honest. I don&#8217;t pay any attention to gymnastics at any other time during the year &#8230; well,  during the last four years actually. But for some reason, maybe because it&#8217;s the <strong>2008 Olympics</strong>, I find myself wanting to watch. I find myself staying up late to watch. And I find myself enamored with the likes of <strong>Nastia Liukin</strong>, <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/shawn-johnson-finally-gets-hers-671/">Shawn Johnson</a> and <strong>Jonathan Horton</strong> (who won a silver medal on the high bar the other night by the way!).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been a few &#8220;scandals&#8221; throughout the gymnastic competition, mostly on the girls&#8217; side of things. There&#8217;s been whispers about <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/are-the-chinese-girls-gymnasts-underage/">the &#8220;real&#8221; age of the Chinese girls&#8217; gymnasts</a>. There&#8217;s been hemming and hawing about the judges being too critical of the U.S. team. And there&#8217;s been complaints about how the judges low-balled <strong>Alicia Sacramone </strong>during the individual vault competition. </p>
<p>So what I want to know is this: <strong>Was Alicia Sacramone robbed by the judges?</strong></p>
<p>(Don&#8217;t forget to cast your vote in the poll!)</p>
<p><strong>My argument is this:</strong><br />
I don&#8217;t know a thing about gymnastics scoring. I&#8217;ve listened to the analysts, some of who say the scoring was fair and others who say <strong>Sacramone </strong>was scored unfairly. <img src='http://www.everyjoe.com/files/671/2008/08/aliciasacramone_nc.jpg' align='right' alt='aliciasacramone_nc.jpg' />What I understand is this: the start value has a huge influence on the overall score. If you have a start value that is high but don&#8217;t execute the routine all that well, you can still score higher than someone who has a lower start value and executes the routine to perfection. Does that make sense? Yes. Is it fair? I don&#8217;t know. I suppose if someone takes on a harder routine they should be scored higher, but isn&#8217;t that also a risk to take? If you take on a more difficult routine then it is on you to make it great, difficult or not. That is the risk you take. I say if the routine is flawless, score them higher. But if someone falls on her knees during the routine (cough, <strong>Cheng Fei</strong>), that should have been a HUGE deduction as opposed to someone (cough, <strong>Sacramone</strong>) who doesn&#8217;t fall on her knees during a routine. </p>
<p>But what do I know? I&#8217;m just a viewer. </p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t think everyone should be crying and shouting &#8220;conspiracy.&#8221; The bottom line is that the home country has always influenced the judges, whether we like it or not. The U.S. has gotten our fair share of &#8220;homer&#8221; judges in past <strong>Olympics</strong>. So you really can&#8217;t blame the <strong>Chinese</strong> for that.</p>
<p>As for <strong>Sacramone </strong>&#8230; I just feel bad for the girl. She didn&#8217;t pull her weight in the team competition. And even though the <strong>U.S.</strong> won a silver medal, I&#8217;m sure she feels responsible for essentially losing any gold medal hopes for the rest of the team. The individual vault competition was supposed to be her shot at redemption. It was supposed to her one chance to salvage what she deems as a disappointing <strong>Olympic</strong> run. But it didn&#8217;t go her way. </p>
<p>Instead, <strong>Cheng Fei</strong> edged her out of a bronze medal with a knee-landing vault. A <a href="http://www.everyjoe.com/germanys-33-year-old-gymnast/">33-year-old gymnast</a> from the <strong>German team</strong> (who I give MAJOR props) won the silver. And <strong>Hong Un Jong </strong>from <strong>Korea </strong>took gold. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think <strong>Sacramone </strong>was robbed. But I do think she&#8217;ll be thinking about these <strong>2008 Olympic games</strong> for the next four years &#8230; maybe even for the rest of her life.</p>
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<strong>The results of the Michael Phelps poll are in!</strong> The question was: <em>Who&#8217;s the greatest athlete of all time?</em> Wow. Michael Phelps ran away with that one. Almost everyone vote him as the greatest athlete of all time. That&#8217;s a pretty bold statement!
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