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		<title>By: fnugolygmego</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nik</title>
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		<dc:creator>nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without a doubt.Both Liverpool and Manchester United are the two of the biggest and most sussessfull football clubs in the history of english football.
Even though we don&#039;t get on and dislike each other.No right-thinking Liverpool or Manchester United fan cannot argue about what both clubs have done for english football.Trophy-wise anyway.
Plus both clubs have suffered terrible tradedies.
Manchester United with Munich and Liverpool with Hillsbrough.
So there is some respect between Liverpool and Manchester United.
A lot of mancs I know,and who I have spoke too,claim that there is more hatred towards leeds fans than Liverpool fans.
I don&#039;t think that there is a Man Utd fan from around england I have met or known that has had anything nice to say about leeds fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without a doubt.Both Liverpool and Manchester United are the two of the biggest and most sussessfull football clubs in the history of english football.<br />
Even though we don&#8217;t get on and dislike each other.No right-thinking Liverpool or Manchester United fan cannot argue about what both clubs have done for english football.Trophy-wise anyway.<br />
Plus both clubs have suffered terrible tradedies.<br />
Manchester United with Munich and Liverpool with Hillsbrough.<br />
So there is some respect between Liverpool and Manchester United.<br />
A lot of mancs I know,and who I have spoke too,claim that there is more hatred towards leeds fans than Liverpool fans.<br />
I don&#8217;t think that there is a Man Utd fan from around england I have met or known that has had anything nice to say about leeds fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say unless Liverpool win the title - I couldn&#039;t really give a toss who wins it - so long as their play deserves it.  Man Utd have built their legacy, and thanks to Fergie now have their most succesful era in their history.  Can&#039;t wait to see what happens when he goes! But that won&#039;t be for a while so I&#039;m not holding my breath.  In other words Man Utd have earnt their success.  
Chelsea, or more specifically their fans - will continue to take stick whether they take titles or not - until more teams are on a level playing field financially.  No-one can deny the influence of a big fat cheque book on a teams success, whether its used for buying players, stadiums, or refs in some instances (oooh - contraversial!) But Man Utd became successful before the money rolled in.  As did Arsenal. As did Liverpool.  The success attracted the investments, and then it was upto the board, manager and players how long they could maintain or build on that initial success.  That&#039;s where I take my hat off to Fergie, he&#039;s the best the premiereship has seen in years. Unfortunately where Chelsea are concerned its all far too much like some rich boy&#039;s wet dream to buy a team near the river in the capital and have a bit of a muck around to see what he can do. Yes Chelsea won a few cup competitions, and prior to Roman walking through the front door the only title taken was how many years ago?  You won&#039;t get the respect that comes with winning the title for many years to come.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;d say Liverpool may have the same problem should the Sheikh take over - but we already have - and still have THE most successful club in England.  That&#039;s probably why we still go on about it.  Sure it&#039;d be amazing to win the league this year or next year or the year after. But we&#039;re progressing, and I know it will come.  

As for the bell end who said our champions league win made a mockery of the competition.........which of your teams&#039; games is hailed as one of the best ever by the fans of other teams, including your most bitter rivals?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say unless Liverpool win the title &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t really give a toss who wins it &#8211; so long as their play deserves it.  Man Utd have built their legacy, and thanks to Fergie now have their most succesful era in their history.  Can&#8217;t wait to see what happens when he goes! But that won&#8217;t be for a while so I&#8217;m not holding my breath.  In other words Man Utd have earnt their success.<br />
Chelsea, or more specifically their fans &#8211; will continue to take stick whether they take titles or not &#8211; until more teams are on a level playing field financially.  No-one can deny the influence of a big fat cheque book on a teams success, whether its used for buying players, stadiums, or refs in some instances (oooh &#8211; contraversial!) But Man Utd became successful before the money rolled in.  As did Arsenal. As did Liverpool.  The success attracted the investments, and then it was upto the board, manager and players how long they could maintain or build on that initial success.  That&#8217;s where I take my hat off to Fergie, he&#8217;s the best the premiereship has seen in years. Unfortunately where Chelsea are concerned its all far too much like some rich boy&#8217;s wet dream to buy a team near the river in the capital and have a bit of a muck around to see what he can do. Yes Chelsea won a few cup competitions, and prior to Roman walking through the front door the only title taken was how many years ago?  You won&#8217;t get the respect that comes with winning the title for many years to come.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d say Liverpool may have the same problem should the Sheikh take over &#8211; but we already have &#8211; and still have THE most successful club in England.  That&#8217;s probably why we still go on about it.  Sure it&#8217;d be amazing to win the league this year or next year or the year after. But we&#8217;re progressing, and I know it will come.  </p>
<p>As for the bell end who said our champions league win made a mockery of the competition&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;which of your teams&#8217; games is hailed as one of the best ever by the fans of other teams, including your most bitter rivals?</p>
<p>Exactly&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: thefamousgcp</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Lester - Ive been going to Chelsea for 30 years and have never had a problem with Liverpool or United&#039;s history. You have great ones that you are rightly proud of. Are you telling me that i cant crow on about our history and supporters because it&#039;s not as good as yours? Don&#039;t be a mug, it&#039;s supporters like us, that have stood on the shed in the pissing rain week in and week out, whilst playing crap football that makes Chelsea what it is mate. Ok, Chelsea can&#039;t match your history (for the time being at least) but hey, why do you (especially Liverpool supporters) keep going on about our lack of history? Does it bother you that much? We are proud of our history and entitled to be. You have the likes of West Ham (no offence hammers)who have virtually won sweet FA and no-one rattles on about their lack of history - i suppose it&#039;s because they are no threat to you, unlike ourselves? PS Its funny how you view your fluke Chumps league win differently to us. Come on mate, everyone disconnected with Liverpool can&#039;t take you lot seriously anymore. In the eighties, when you were a good team, fair enough - but you really aren&#039;t a particularly good side anymore. And if You do beat Chelsea this afternoon don&#039;t go on about it for too long, it will ony give you three points, not a title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Lester &#8211; Ive been going to Chelsea for 30 years and have never had a problem with Liverpool or United&#8217;s history. You have great ones that you are rightly proud of. Are you telling me that i cant crow on about our history and supporters because it&#8217;s not as good as yours? Don&#8217;t be a mug, it&#8217;s supporters like us, that have stood on the shed in the pissing rain week in and week out, whilst playing crap football that makes Chelsea what it is mate. Ok, Chelsea can&#8217;t match your history (for the time being at least) but hey, why do you (especially Liverpool supporters) keep going on about our lack of history? Does it bother you that much? We are proud of our history and entitled to be. You have the likes of West Ham (no offence hammers)who have virtually won sweet FA and no-one rattles on about their lack of history &#8211; i suppose it&#8217;s because they are no threat to you, unlike ourselves? PS Its funny how you view your fluke Chumps league win differently to us. Come on mate, everyone disconnected with Liverpool can&#8217;t take you lot seriously anymore. In the eighties, when you were a good team, fair enough &#8211; but you really aren&#8217;t a particularly good side anymore. And if You do beat Chelsea this afternoon don&#8217;t go on about it for too long, it will ony give you three points, not a title.</p>
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		<title>By: SF Gooner</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 05:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Arsenal fan I&#039;d rather Arsenal won it. The rest of you can fuck off ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Arsenal fan I&#8217;d rather Arsenal won it. The rest of you can fuck off <img src='http://www.everyjoe.com/thefootie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mr Onion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Onion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the history aspect refers to repeated winning of the top titles - ie the league title and the premier European competition.

How can the CL be a joke if you have all the top European clubs in there?  It was probably formed that way to stop the alleged breakaway European league that was talked about some years back.

So you have all the top teams, they usually come through their groups, they play each other and ultimately one team triumphs.  How can that be a joke?

I admit, sometimes a good run in Europe can lead to worse domestic form.

But consider this, the top two clubs in the EPL are the richest - is that coincidence?

Liverpool, as far as challenging for the title, have suffered in recent years - hence the managerial changes Souness, Evans, Houllier and now Rafa.  We&#039;ve seen that Rafa is a top manager who likes a fully match fit SQUAD of players - who knows what he could do with a bit more financial backing.

Utd and Chelski should be looking over their shoulders for the next few seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the history aspect refers to repeated winning of the top titles &#8211; ie the league title and the premier European competition.</p>
<p>How can the CL be a joke if you have all the top European clubs in there?  It was probably formed that way to stop the alleged breakaway European league that was talked about some years back.</p>
<p>So you have all the top teams, they usually come through their groups, they play each other and ultimately one team triumphs.  How can that be a joke?</p>
<p>I admit, sometimes a good run in Europe can lead to worse domestic form.</p>
<p>But consider this, the top two clubs in the EPL are the richest &#8211; is that coincidence?</p>
<p>Liverpool, as far as challenging for the title, have suffered in recent years &#8211; hence the managerial changes Souness, Evans, Houllier and now Rafa.  We&#8217;ve seen that Rafa is a top manager who likes a fully match fit SQUAD of players &#8211; who knows what he could do with a bit more financial backing.</p>
<p>Utd and Chelski should be looking over their shoulders for the next few seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: RedLester</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedLester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments for all of you:

Robin - it&#039;s nothing to do with jealousy. It&#039;s mostly to do with the behavior of the Chelsea manager and players. I&#039;d be supporting the Reds through gritted teeth if our manager whined and moaned about every decision after every game, and it&#039;d be just as hard if our players dived around like they&#039;d be shot left right and center. Look at John Terry for example, England&#039;s captain. What sort of example is he setting with his antics at Chelsea? For the most part Liverpool managers and players are realists who like to avoid controversy, bullshit and non-football related matters. It was Stevie G who came out after the world cup and said that we need to stop bigging ourselves up convinced we&#039;re going to win it and start performing instead of talking. John Terry on the other hand, said he was &#039;flabberghasted&#039; that they didn&#039;t win it as he really thought it was our year. Based on what performances John? 

Stevo - you&#039;re spot on mate, your opinions pretty much reflect how I&#039;m feeling.

James Ellis - I may be being a bit harsh here mate but you sound like the sort of fan that gives others a bad name. There&#039;s no point running around aimlessly holding on to age old grudges or rivalries if the reason they originated in the first place isn&#039;t as apparent any more. Sure we&#039;ll always hate Man.U, but to say you&#039;ll always hate them more than any other team on this planet no matter what happens is a narrow minded thuggish mentality that doesn&#039;t promote worthy opinion.

the famous gcp: You&#039;ve won &#039;trophies&#039; in Europe, that&#039;ll be a couple of cup winners cup medals then? And what, 7 or 8 domestic honours? That&#039;s not a lot for 100 years of history mate. And you&#039;re in no position to crow about fan support either, Mourinho himself recently moaned about the dispassion of your fans. Stick up for your team if you like but don&#039;t try and take us on based on these sorts of claims. It&#039;s like taking a chopstick to a frikkin&#039; gun fight for christ sakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments for all of you:</p>
<p>Robin &#8211; it&#8217;s nothing to do with jealousy. It&#8217;s mostly to do with the behavior of the Chelsea manager and players. I&#8217;d be supporting the Reds through gritted teeth if our manager whined and moaned about every decision after every game, and it&#8217;d be just as hard if our players dived around like they&#8217;d be shot left right and center. Look at John Terry for example, England&#8217;s captain. What sort of example is he setting with his antics at Chelsea? For the most part Liverpool managers and players are realists who like to avoid controversy, bullshit and non-football related matters. It was Stevie G who came out after the world cup and said that we need to stop bigging ourselves up convinced we&#8217;re going to win it and start performing instead of talking. John Terry on the other hand, said he was &#8216;flabberghasted&#8217; that they didn&#8217;t win it as he really thought it was our year. Based on what performances John? </p>
<p>Stevo &#8211; you&#8217;re spot on mate, your opinions pretty much reflect how I&#8217;m feeling.</p>
<p>James Ellis &#8211; I may be being a bit harsh here mate but you sound like the sort of fan that gives others a bad name. There&#8217;s no point running around aimlessly holding on to age old grudges or rivalries if the reason they originated in the first place isn&#8217;t as apparent any more. Sure we&#8217;ll always hate Man.U, but to say you&#8217;ll always hate them more than any other team on this planet no matter what happens is a narrow minded thuggish mentality that doesn&#8217;t promote worthy opinion.</p>
<p>the famous gcp: You&#8217;ve won &#8216;trophies&#8217; in Europe, that&#8217;ll be a couple of cup winners cup medals then? And what, 7 or 8 domestic honours? That&#8217;s not a lot for 100 years of history mate. And you&#8217;re in no position to crow about fan support either, Mourinho himself recently moaned about the dispassion of your fans. Stick up for your team if you like but don&#8217;t try and take us on based on these sorts of claims. It&#8217;s like taking a chopstick to a frikkin&#8217; gun fight for christ sakes.</p>
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		<title>By: the famous gcp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get all of the &#039;no history&#039; crap the scousers keep harping on about. We have won trophies in europe and also won all of the domestic silverware - thats why we used to take 10,000 fans to away games when we were sh*t. One ground, one name, 100 years. Thats our history and we are proud of it. Champions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get all of the &#8216;no history&#8217; crap the scousers keep harping on about. We have won trophies in europe and also won all of the domestic silverware &#8211; thats why we used to take 10,000 fans to away games when we were sh*t. One ground, one name, 100 years. Thats our history and we are proud of it. Champions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Ellis

You are missing the point mate.

I&#039;m 28 so this year I&#039;ve been going to Anfield for 20 years. I&#039;m a season ticket holder, travel to some away games in the UK and in Europe as do my dad and sister so I think that says more about my &#039;true colours&#039;

Moan United already have a place in Football history alongside ourselves and all the other great European sides who on the whole achieved what they did with style and grace. There is nothing we can do about that now.

I don&#039;t want Chelsea to get anywhere near our 18 championships or 5 european cups because personally I don&#039;t think they deserve to be held in anywhere near the same regard as we are. Especially all the Chelscum fans who suddenly come out of the woodwork. The have to advertise their champions league tickets on the radio and the tube for f@cks sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Ellis</p>
<p>You are missing the point mate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 28 so this year I&#8217;ve been going to Anfield for 20 years. I&#8217;m a season ticket holder, travel to some away games in the UK and in Europe as do my dad and sister so I think that says more about my &#8216;true colours&#8217;</p>
<p>Moan United already have a place in Football history alongside ourselves and all the other great European sides who on the whole achieved what they did with style and grace. There is nothing we can do about that now.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want Chelsea to get anywhere near our 18 championships or 5 european cups because personally I don&#8217;t think they deserve to be held in anywhere near the same regard as we are. Especially all the Chelscum fans who suddenly come out of the woodwork. The have to advertise their champions league tickets on the radio and the tube for f@cks sake.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you supposed Reds who want Scumchester United to win the league should hang your heads in shame. I don&#039;t care what excuse you come up with, whether it be respect for what they&#039;ve achieved or whatever, it&#039;s a disgrace.

Of course the Scum have done well, you can&#039;t deny it, and yes, credit where credit&#039;s due, but why the f**k would you want THEM to win the title. Chelsea are a here today gone tomorrow football side, the ultimate rich man&#039;s plaything. How many times have you got hooked on Championship Manager for a few months then lost interest with it. Thei will happen to Abramovich some day and Scum will still be there, winning stuff.

NEVER will I or any true Red want the Scum to win anything. You lot have shown your true colours with your comments, and it&#039;s not Red.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you supposed Reds who want Scumchester United to win the league should hang your heads in shame. I don&#8217;t care what excuse you come up with, whether it be respect for what they&#8217;ve achieved or whatever, it&#8217;s a disgrace.</p>
<p>Of course the Scum have done well, you can&#8217;t deny it, and yes, credit where credit&#8217;s due, but why the f**k would you want THEM to win the title. Chelsea are a here today gone tomorrow football side, the ultimate rich man&#8217;s plaything. How many times have you got hooked on Championship Manager for a few months then lost interest with it. Thei will happen to Abramovich some day and Scum will still be there, winning stuff.</p>
<p>NEVER will I or any true Red want the Scum to win anything. You lot have shown your true colours with your comments, and it&#8217;s not Red.</p>
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