Goblin and Worgen Racials
August 29, 2009 by Angelo Fernandez
Filed under General WoW News
Last weekend’s Blizzcon ‘09 saw the announcement of the Cataclysm expansion and instead of a new class like Wrath of the Lich King’s Death Knight, Blizzard decided to go the way of The Burning Crusade to release a pair of new playable races. It’s been rumored for a while now that the Goblin and Worgen races would be new races for the expansion because of the Goblin and Worgen Halloween masks that were discovered from data mining game files. At the time it seemed like strange choices for new races but turns out that they were indeed the new races as announced.
Goblin
A while back I made a list of possible racials for the Goblin and the Worgen assuming for a second that they were the new races. well now they are the new races and the real racials are listed below (Taken from WoW Wiki). These were apparently announced already at Blizzcon and I missed it for a few days due to its relatively low key status. For people like me who still haven’t seen them, here are the real Goblin and Worgen racials. I have to say that while I didn’t get any of the racials smack on with my speculations before, some of the ideas have manifested themselves in some other way.
GOBLIN| source
Playable classes: Warrior, Death Knight, Rogue, Priest, Shaman, Hunter, Mage, Warlock
Racials:
Rocket Jump – instant – 2 min cooldown
Activate your rocket belt to jump up to 20 yards.
Rocket Barrage – instant – 2 min cooldown (shared with Rocket Jump)
Fire your belt rockets at an enemy within 30 yards.
Time is money – passive
Cash in on a 1% increase to attack and casting speed.
Best Deals Anywhere – passive
Best possible gold discount, regardless of reputation.
Pack Hobgoblin – instant – 30 min cooldown
Calls in your personal servant, allowing you bank access every 30 min.
Better Living Through Chemistry – passive
Alchemy skill +15, your potions give more health/mana.
WORGEN| source
Playable classes: Druid, Death Knight, Rogue, Mage, Warlock, Priest, Hunter, Warrior
Racials:
Viciousness (Passive)
Increase damage by 1%.
Abberation (Passive)
Reduced duration on Curses and Diseases used against you by 15%.
Flayer (Passive)
Skinning skill +15, skinning speed increase, no knife required.
Darkflight – instant – 3 min cooldown
Activate your true form, increasing movement speed by 70% for 6 sec.
Two Forms – instant – 1.5 sec cooldown
Transform into your currently inactive form.
Worgen will be able to switch between human form and worgen form while out of combat using the two forms ability. Entering combat in human form will automaticlaly shift you to worgen.
Don’t you think that with goblins and worgen having 6 racials and the others only having 4, this could be a sign that the other races could get at least 2 more cool racials to match up to them? It’s definitely a thought to ponder.
I hope those arn’t right… The Worgen are getting crap, while the goblins get the most useful racials in the game? Access your bank anyway, extra DPS/Movement, instant discounts, and Worgen get… Faster skinning? Sorry, my skinning speed never really bothered me, can I get something useful, like bonus crit, or something other then a novelty?
It is probably a gimmick to get people to roll goblin and not just worgen. The goblin look pretty nasty even for horde standards and the worgen look extremely cool. So maybe it is just to balance out the two races.
You noticed there is only 5 racials for the worgen yet.. well 4 tbh (cant count the form change as one) So id belive blizz will still give em 2 more.
And id still see the 70% speed and 15% reduced duration on curses and diseases very useful.. especially in PVP.
If you think about it we (Horde) have been shafted far more in the past, unlike the Alliance have with race/class/racial. There are multiple possibilities with each of these 2 races being added in the expansion. In my opinion I can see an overwhelming amount of Worgen Rogues, not only in general but as PvP toons. I can also imagine many PvP Goblin Hunters too. Things will be interesting.
really… the worgen aren’t getting anything useful…..? what about 1% damage increase? or a 15% reduced curse and disease reduction? or a movement increase ability? Cause honestly, accessing my bank isn’t all that important to me most times…..
im sorry but to give worgen such crappy racials dosent make sence…i mean..worgen look cool ….so they give the goblins talents to match the worgens coolness? how is that fair. its blizz screwing up once again, those wont be the racials. Worgen will get diff racials..i pray
“Don’t you think that with goblins and worgen having 6 racials and the others only having 4, this could be a sign that the other races could get at least 2 more cool racials to match up to them?” -Angelo Fernandez
They’ve said they will be making the other races racials match up to the new races. They want to add more “cool” stuff.
Goblin racials do seem to be much better than Worgen IMO. The sprint and damage increase are cool, but goblins get haste and rocket belt. The automatic discount on all goods is a big benifit IMO, much larger than the humans diplomacy. they get to access thier bank and worgen get… faster skinning? woohoo! FAIL
All of you guys are over reacting. Like flipftw said, there’s gona be lots of classes that will benefit more from these racials… if your class is not it oh well, you have nothing to worry about. Goblins aren’t Sooo much better like you guys are portraying them to be, think about it. To me an undead rogue is still one of the best rogues due to 2 immunities to fear with an insignia. A human death knight can output most dps in pvp due to that he does not have to have a lousy insignia taking a trinket spot (dual darkmoon cards!!!). A rogue with an extra sprint (worgen)?!?!? Sometimes the arena match ends and i still got another sprint unused… not very helpful. A hunter with a rocket belt (goblin)?!? Become an engineer and get your own.
If they want to throw the Worgen a bone they should make a worgen exclusive master of anatomy at (normal skinning cap) + 15. cause that would be cool for the crit.
Hm, you’re an idiot if you’re whining about Worgen getting bad racials. I mean,Really? Are you stupid? First of all, Dmg increase. A SPRINT. AND reduction on Curse/Disease’s. So if you’re complaining about the racials for a worgen. Don’t even comment. Goblins have useful racials…Its about time horde got some damn good racials. Lets use an example. Humans? PvP trinket racial. Spirit Bonus, faster rep grinding, expertise. Orcs? Ap/SP increase. Thats the only useful one. Gnomes? Int increase. ALSO pvp trinket. Tauren? Warstomp. Draenei? Hm, heal over time, and increased hit. The best racial we have, is tauren HP bonus, and BE silence. Alliance have been spoiled by Blizzard. So don’t even say anything about the Worgen/Goblin racial comparison.
i agree with elementster. quit whining about the worgen/goblin racial. alliance racials already op in comparison with the horde racials.
The tauren racial is base hp now, meaning like 400hp at 80 gain…woo hoo, also the alliance got shit on for racials up till a few patches ago, theyre finally in line or better than horde racials
i like your ideas elementster
Wtf are you talking about?? Horde has the best pvp racials overall, end of story. Just look now that they introduced faction change, at least 50% of all GOOD pvpers changed to horde, and around 10% of the horde players changed to alliance, horde will eventually take control of WoW completely tbh.
Your an alliance hating retard if your saying 1% damage and an extra sprint is OP compared to:
1) 1% spell cast and attack speed > 1% damage, because 1% speed boost helps healers too…
2) Insta 1k off of your epic flyer because of best deals… from level 1-85 you’ll save at least 5-8kg and that’s if your a total cheap ass…
3) 30min bank access when my current is between 4 hours… that’s 8 times more bank access which means mad farming skills!!! and the boost to potions will be great for rogue leveling…
4) Worgen get a 3 min cd 6 sec 70% speed boost, when my druid’s speed boost is 2min cd 15 sec 80%…
This place is either full of retarded Horde or some naive Alliance…
BTW no other race will have that 1% speed boost since they are changing the way haste works…
5% stamina boost, 2 sec aoe stun, 2 sec aoe silence +6% mana back or +15 energy (only one useable by none npcs in the entire game), 35% canabalism heal (extra bandage/potion when leveling), 5 sec total immunity towards fear and charm, 20% haste speed boost (extra heroism), AP/SP booster for 15 sec (extra trinket), and 2% immunity to spells??? SINCE WHEN THE HELL DID HORDE NOT HAVE GOOD RACIALS??? YOUR STUPIDITY SURPRISES ME…
Better take another look, ass-hat. Gnomes can break anything that inhibits their movement. Night Elves have a Vanish, regardless of what class they play. Humans get a free “Break Everything” trinket. Dwarves can brush off all poison and bleed effects. Draenei get an extra 1% hit chance, thus reducing how much hit rating they have to gear for, and doing the same for anyone that runs with them as well.
Also, cannibalism is a joke. It’s not a potion OR a bandage, hell it’s not even FOOD. You HAVE to be near a HUMANOID or UNDEAD corpse, nothing else will work…if you move, take damage, or if something even LOOKS at you cross-eyed, the effect breaks and it’s unusable again for 2 minutes. So, it’s actually rather useless.
And Will of the FOrsaken only breaks Fear, Charm and Sleep effects, it doesn’t make you immune for any length of time. I will agree the stamina boost and the AP/SP boost are pretty nice, but the 2 sec AoE silence? Hah, if they’re 10 yards away, which by the way, no caster class is generally any closer to any other caster class than 10 yards, then the silence doesn’t do anything. At best? You’ll get one target, unless they’re all stupid. 2 second AoE stun is also a joke, since Taurens cannot move when doing it. It’s a .5 second cast time, forcing them to stand still to use it.
Trolls get a nice speed increase with their berserking, but Humans have Perception to make finding stealthed targets easier, and Night Elves have a natural 2% Melee and Ranged damage evasion. As well as Draenei having a free instant hot, granted, not a big one, but it is a difference maker. Always.
Seems that the balance is in favor of the Alliance on this one. With the current ideas, the balance is back in place.
Since when is the NE racial Vanish? Its a static stealth…. which isnt even usable in combat.
On topic: WTF imho its all about equal… just because you ROFLCOPTERS want something doesnt meen you should!
IMO Alliance should get:
1) a speed boost that is 2-3 min cd and lasts 12 sec and goes 70-80%
2) Ability to sniff out where nods/rare spawns/chests are
3) 1% damage boost
4) Unarming enrages for 50-100% damage boost with unarmed
5) 2-4% boost to bleed effects
1) Stoneform is garbage now
2) Shadowmeld doesn’t help in PvP since they see through it almost instintly and in PvE you just get 100% of your aggro back when you come out
3) 1% raid hit boost is decent I guess
4) Extra PvP trinket and slightly higher see through stealth are only useful in PvP and very rarely in PvE
5) 1:30 minute cd on getting out of snares??? Doesn’t every class have some sort of small cd to get out of snares now-a-days??? WTF was blizz thinking???
Basically what I’m trying to get at is… anyone above me who commented saying that Worgen don’t have gimped racials is either mentally retarded or doesn’t use there brain to look into this crap and compare them for 5 seconds…
Maybe they should just have brought back the wisp race instead
A couple other things to add:
1) The HoT dreanei (IDC HOW IT”S SPELLED) get has a long cd and by the time you throw it on someone it doesn’t even really help…
2) 5% int boost??? ROFL I pissed my pants when I heard that, ever heard of mana regen??? 5% int for a holy pally yes, for a resto sham yes, but this is just a joke… does a rogue or warrior have int??? I didn’t think so…
The fact that half the guys in here are talking shit about Alliance racials when Horde have ALWAYS had the best racials is a joke.
Ok, all i see here is ppl arguing with each other. Alliance DOES have better racials compared to horde (yes horde has the Undead, orc, and BE racials, those are pretty good). Goblins get a rocket belt, haste, and rockets to fire at people. Looks pretty sweet… Worgen has dmg increase, no skinning knife requirement, speed boost, and shapeshift (which is just a cool little add-on). The racials are about as even as you could possibly get… (much better than the BE racial compared to the draenie racial, silence/mana regen vs. more hit and a heal? really?) but anyway, if you reply to this spewing hate comments then you are obviously twelve. I play Horde and Alliance so dont say, and i quote “You’re just a retarded horde alliance hater or a naive alliance player.
Worgen damage increase is basically equivalent to the haste goblins get XD except the haste helps healers too and how can you say that faster skinning beats cheaper food/drinks, repairs, mats, etc. Also all the gnome and dwarf racials are pretty bad =\ (Hey someones gotta look out for the little guys) and the drenie ones really suck too. IMO humans and night elves have the only decent racials.
You obviously didn’t read the comparing between the two, besides the weak speed boost and dmg boost their racials suck… Goblins racials still beet them in just about every single possible way…
And humans are the only Alliance race with good racials but they are PvP racials excluding the 3% spirit for priests and 3 expertise on mace/swords (btw expertise cap is a joke to reach in toc 25 (iLvL245) / toc 10 heroic (iLvL245) / toc 25 heroic (iLvL258) gear so don’t comment on 3 expertise being amazing).
So please if you have some actual proof of Alliance having better racials I’d be happy to see it.
It looks like, obviously, people don’t notice they’re trying to add a more PVP base to alliance by adding something like abberation or viciousness because if you look at the alliance and horde racials they are pretty balanced. Quite frankly, its just a matter of how you use your class and how you deal with other classes, especially in PVP. I think the Worgen is a nice addition to the alliance gives more of a PVP feel to the alliance. as for the horde, it’ll give them a better PVP and economic support. I do understand the outrage of goblins vs. Worgens because if you just look at the two the goblin seems to be a lot more profitable. However, i do understand why the horde feel that way towards the worgen because if you look at the factions as a whole it kind of balances in a way, but not quite so i hope blizzard is still looking to fix that problem. That Best Deals Anywhere racial is not even a biggie to me, but again i do understand why people are so angered with this racial because its that much more gold you could be making and time you could be saving because in WoW, time is, literally, money (gold). But just look at it, what? 10% gold cheaper? FUCK, THAT’S CHUMP CHANGE! c’mon now guys blizzard has been babying us with our gold. For a guy that hasn’t really played seriously during pre-BC, shit you guys are just a bunch of cry babies. I hardly play seriously now, but whatever. Peace.
P.S. do correct me if you feel i am wrong. constructive criticism =D
The problem is that almost all the Alliance racials are PvP and when stoneskin finally seemed like a comeback vs rogues, they nerfed the sht out of it…
Gnomes get a 1:30min cd to get out of snares… every class has some way to get out of snares with a lower cooldown than 1:30min, every man for himself gets out of everything and is only 30 sec longer…
Shadowmeld has been upgraded but only 1/10k horde will think you logged off or teleported, the prob with shadowmeld is your attacker is mashing his buttons when you use it and when you hit an attack it’ll auto target/hit the person who’s closest which will be the meldy 99.99% of the time.
When you look at Horde however… their racials are useful in PvE and PvP… way more than half of them…
I agree with that shit man. Very clearly stated. It kind of balances out in a way, but there always seem to be people that bitch about something. People are never satisfied nowadays, always wanting more more more. Its pretty sad to see what the American society has turned into. haha.
I have to agree with ya man the american society is almost completly stupid nowadays….
You dick heads.
GOBLIN OWN!!! There racisls arent OP at all. There VERY fun, Though. I mean c’mon, skinning speed increase? Seriously? Then Goblins get shit like rocket jump (WOOO) Rocket barrage (WOOOO) Fucking personal bank and best of all, Cheapest deals No matter how much rep!!! Im an alliance player and despise Horde cause i dont know where anything is. I proberly will make a Goblin not a Worgen, Though. Cause Goblin overall gameplay is BADASS, And you can save/farm a SHIT LOAD. Its gonna be epic.
GOBLINS OWN IN THIS SITUATION i would pay to have the greatness of the goblin racials and i would much have some coool jumping crap as a worgen in stead of idk no knife required skining i can pay 2 silver for a knife thank you very much and shouldnt the goblins get a price increase cuz they are little stealers super smart and have already amzing things WTF BLIZZ REALLY NOW!!!
if these are the real racials for the new races im posotive half of the alliance on my server will switch fo-sho. Heres a new racial for the worgens
fair fight- gives the attacking worgen 1G for every hit it gives if fighting a goblin cuz they will be rich as FUKKK and wont have to work for SHIIIT! and worgens will be poor ciz they cant even afford a dam knife for skining apparently!
Btw the 15% curse and disease shit might not even come out cus a lot of people are saying it’s actually under powered because:
arena- the other guys a retard if he’s not cleansing you (double burst team is fail 99% of the time, so don’t comment on it or your a scrub).
BG- cleanse your self or get a pocket healer
World PvP (alone)- cleanse your self and IF you can’t then it might be useful…
Goblin jump is basically like feral cat charge/jump so ranged dps is fucked vs warriors and enhance sham. Mage are looking at another blink and warlock are looking at another teleport, while priests are looking at an alternative to psychic scream.
So again please stop talking out of your ass and look the shit up before you comment.
Horde > Alliance racial-wise
Think of the Goblin classes being like the Death Knight, although somewhat overpowered the perks of rolling a Death Knight were as followed: Free starter gear, free epic mount, cool starting quests, and domination in the 50-59 PvP brackets. The goblins do have some insane abilities, but maybe they’re just going to be a hero race instead of a hero class. IMO neither race should be a Death Knight considering the LK will be dead by the time these clowns make their appearance.
I don’t understand why everyone is getting so worked up about which is better.
If you think the horde racials are better why don’t you stop complaining about how you think they’re better and play a horde character. If you think the alliance racials are better go play an alliance character.
guys if you wanna be a crybaby about “bad racials” then dont pick worgen or goblins..stfu and play your current clas and race and everything will be just fine…
both of the races look cool and if your a pro gamer you will find both new races AND their racials very useful and fun…
i play as horde and i will definitely make a goblin and pwn n00bs 24/7 !
hunglow out…peace to everibody
Goblin mage = BLINK + JUMP = OUT OF COMBAT = MOUNT = WIN = YOU LOSE = LUL = GOBLIN MAGE = PIE
There’s only one thing that’s kinda’ messing up EVERY single argument about ratials and balance … blizz is going to CHANGE the racials of all the current races upon release of the 2 new classes to match up in quality. so any current “unbalances” won’t matter then… so STFU about it already!
Both racials have their advanatages, but, Worgen come out on top. Hobgoblin can be easily offset with Argent Squire by any race or class. Rocket jump and rocket barrage can be offset by any engineer. who cares about the money deal racial considering how easy it is to get cash in WOW. Pfft. alch. +15. Big deal. the haste increase for attack and spell is a nice feature.
Worgen get a nice speed boost racial. Assuming they dont share the same cooldown, a worgen druid can have 21 seconds of speed boost at an average of 78%!!! that is AMAZING for wsg flag carrier or running like a coward. Druid worgens are gonna be amazing. faster skinning, faster movement, increased damage. Rogues, Driuds, Warriors, Shamman are gonna be sick.
Depending on the type of things you are looking for, both racials have nice features. But to be honest, racials really took a hit when Blizz decided to normalize both horde and ally. remember the days of Dwarf Priests???? I sure do. Now I have no clear advanatge over any other class.
Racials are no defining element on which to base your race decision. We are all the SAME now.
I agree with you man you took the words out of my mouth and if anyone has to say differnt then ur absolutly stupid and should rethink what you have to say
Wonder if rocket belt will allow Goblins to zone in Deadmines thru back door???
As far as alliance goes I don’t see how any damage class won’t feel compelled to pay for the race change to worgen like this. 1% damage increase is the gift that keeps on giving. Yeah it won’t matter too much in the beginning but as people start to max out on gear it will just keep pulling away. The sprint is extremely nice, easily the most useful alliance clicky racial now. As a gnome, escape artist was nice in pvp but no use in pve whatsoever, this is very useful for both. As a warrior I never wear the pvp trinket for pve anyway – sole reason to put that crap on in pve is for fear, and fortunately iknowhow2warrior.
Goblin haste is obviously also useful to healers, but has no effect on instants. With worgen basically you’re either a role that can take full advantage of your racial or a role that takes no benefit. If they’re going to make haste work with dots it’s really not bad as caster dps, but melee won’t see as much benefit with, at least in my case – warrior, about half of my damage coming from autoattacks. Rocket jump is an excellent racial, better than worgen speed due to reduced cooldown. I wouldn’t dismiss such a short cooldown on bank access anywhere, this is quite a convenience clearly extending your backpack and this is available to new toons from level one. If you have some quest items for a quest you’re not planning to finish for a bit you can pop it in your bank just like that. I’m the guy that constantly mails all nonbound stuff to alts while leveling and I still see the bank thing as a major boon.
can’t wait 4 worgen